Lennox Lewis - How good was he?

[Elroy1]

You do know that saying it's a fact, doesn't actually mean it's a fact, right?

If you want to have a serious conversation about a hw boxer (lewis) who MIGHT be the goat that's fine.

But as soon as you bring up ancient fighters who couldn't really compete today, who nobody outside of historical community would fail to recognise as ridiculously incompetent, all credibility is destroyed. That **** is for the history section.

If you want to argue how those type of guys would perform against the modern CW division then sure, that's debatable.

As for Frazier you mentioned... I don't think there is any post title WK, VK or LL opponent that Frazier could have beaten.

He is the size of Byrd, Chambers and a CW Evander Holyfield, except shorter, , except he had zero chin, zero punch and zero skills. Completely different for arguing Lennox's chin too, the evidence is compelling!

[Elroy1]

If you want to have a serious conversation about a hw boxer (lewis) who MIGHT be the goat that's fine.

But as soon as you bring up ancient fighters who couldn't really compete today, who nobody outside of historical community would fail to recognise as ridiculously incompetent, all credibility is destroyed. That **** is for the history section.

If you want to argue how those type of guys would perform against the modern CW division then sure, that's debatable.

As for Frazier you mentioned... I don't think there is any post title WK, VK or LL opponent that Frazier could have beaten.

He is the size of Byrd, Chambers and a CW Evander Holyfield, except shorter, , except he had zero chin, zero punch and zero skills. Completely different for arguing Lennox's chin too, the evidence is compelling!

Where I come from it is customary also to pay respects to past athletes and sportsmen, champs and greats. But never does anybody seriously suggest that they could do anything but get crunched against modern pro comp, that's crazy.

[LacedUp]

If you want to have a serious conversation about a hw boxer (lewis) who MIGHT be the goat that's fine.

But as soon as you bring up ancient fighters who couldn't really compete today, who nobody outside of historical community would fail to recognise as ridiculously incompetent, all credibility is destroyed. That **** is for the history section.

If you want to argue how those type of guys would perform against the modern CW division then sure, that's debatable.

As for Frazier you mentioned... I don't think there is any post title WK, VK or LL opponent that Frazier could have beaten.

He is the size of Byrd, Chambers and a CW Evander Holyfield, except shorter, , except he had zero chin, zero punch and zero skills. Completely different for arguing Lennox's chin too, the evidence is compelling!

Where I come from it is customary also to pay respects to past athletes and sportsmen, champs and greats. But never does anybody seriously suggest that they could do anything but get crunched against modern pro comp, that's crazy.

Well then how do you explain Foreman's comeback? at fat 38 years old he managed to become heavyweight champ.

[New England]

foreman isn't a puncher on the level of chris arreola, tyson fury, bermane stiverne, pulev, povetkin, evidently.

[IMDAZED]

That was a huge win for Ruddock but I've always felt like that second Tyson fight took a lot of life out of Razor.

[LacedUp]

foreman isn't a puncher on the level of chris arreola, tyson fury, bermane stiverne, pulev, povetkin, evidently.

Elroy1 has previously said he thought of Mormeck as better than Foreman, only he punched harder and was better conditioned. Mind you this was the version that fought Wlad.

That was a huge win for Ruddock but I've always felt like that second Tyson fight took a lot of life out of Razor.

I think both Tyson fights took a lot out of him. and tyson for that matter.

[Elroy1]

foreman isn't a puncher on the level of chris arreola, tyson fury, bermane stiverne, pulev, povetkin, evidently.

I think he hits comparably hard to Arreola & Povetkin, Stiverne hit harder than Foreman, Fury and Pulev probably don't hit as hard as Foreman but they are far better boxers aren't they anyway.

Laced Up;

The same way I explain EVERYTHING, with common sense..

The old George Foreman performed BETTER than the Young version obviously...

He was both HEAVIER and far more EXPERIENCED than ANYONE else in the division!

Old Foreman, despite his bulk and age, did not gas.. He fought measured, learned from experience, he is testament to experience over youth.

Old George was strength trained, heavy, had better chin, could still punch hard but also fought smart!

And let's not forget, the only 2 really good opponents he fought, Tommy Morrison and Evander Holyfield, he LOST to!

[IMDAZED]

Elroy1 has previously said he thought of Mormeck as better than Foreman, only he punched harder and was better conditioned. Mind you this was the version that fought Wlad.



I think both Tyson fights took a lot out of him. and tyson for that matter.

You're kidding, right?

Elroy, did you say that?? Hahahahaha

[Weebler I]

For me, Lewis is a poor mans Wladimir. I know its an unpopular opinion but that is how I see it.

notsureifsrs?

Anyway, Lewis is one of the three best boxers I've seen in terms of ability and in terms of fighting and beating everyone, the other two are Pacquiao and Ward.

[LacedUp]

You're kidding, right?

Elroy, did you say that?? Hahahahaha

Nope he actually said that.

He'll do anything to big up Wladimir Klitschko's resume.