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Are Mayweather, Ward, and Rigondeaux the world's 3 best fighters?

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    #61
    Originally posted by Since 1985 View Post
    Your welcome. Funny how people act like Donaire was some bum. Ask Montiel what he thinks...
    Def not a bum. He just came in that fight lethargic and didn't seem like the same fighter who knocked Montiel senseless.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Since 1985 View Post
      Your welcome. Funny how people act like Donaire was some bum. Ask Montiel what he thinks...
      Most the people who call Donaire a bum are the Rigo fans who in the very next sentence use the win to justify Rigo as the best fighter in the world.

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        #63
        In terms of pure skills, probably yes. But 'best fighters', that's a loose term that can be open to interpretation.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Brandish View Post
          great post..rigo gets crapped on because he wins. when have you ever seen a fighter at 122 that skilled. rigo has 4 gold medals and unlike lomo he has won the big fights.

          rigo is my number 3 right now p4p based on his skill set and the amaziong fact he has done so much with so little fights. rigo didn't need the hype he needs to leave top rank and get with al haymon.
          it's all so true.............

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            #65
            Originally posted by APPONO ASTOS
            maybe in your eyes it was considered a recycled fight, but alot had happened since their first fight to suggest things could turn out differently and that's why many people were still iffy on who'd win......

            people were saying bradley had improved a lot since the first fight and his win against #3 p4p marquez supported those claims...and people were saying pac doesn't have it anymore and his win against rios didn't prove anything.....

            the agbeko and rios win are on the same level imo. agebko not considered a top fighter at 118 anymore, past prime, in his mid 30s, had only fought once since losing to mares (which was like in 2011), and hadn't even fought once at 122 i think...rios only had 1 loss, prime, in his mid 20s, bigger, but hasn't fought at 147 before....

            and as much as i like donaire he has yet to have a quality win like beating marquez who was ranked #3, coming off a career best KO win, a guranteed hof'er and atg mexican fighter...

            plus donaire was ranked #5 or 6 by most publications while bradley was ranked #3.....

            in most peoples eyes it was a recycled fight (thats why the numbers are gonna be much lower then projected) the only reason people were giving bradley a chance is because pac was still coming off a brutal ko..........(it had nothing to do with bradley) they thought pac was done after the ko & bradley would have a chance against a shot pac (but that wasn't the case) in fact i predicted that bradley would lose in the same fashion as the last fight because bradley doesn't have any punch technique nore power (go and read my history for that prediction)

            i don't care what people were saying. you can put bradley at number 3 but at the end of the day pac already beat bradley. it's a recycled fight. and him being number 3 a lot of it was based more on sure luck........(he had marquez) who else after that? he lost to pac and he lost to provo. but since he was officially awarded those wins he was that high on the pfp list. him being that high was a bit faulty because officially he may have got those wins but in realty luck had a lot to do with it.

            donaire was NOT a recycled fight nore did he gain gifts to be at number 5. (and when donaire was on the list we had a much clearer picture of who was pfp) the only guys that were ahead of him was mayweather, pac, ward, martinez. (and fighting in a lower division is harder to make p4p vs higher ones) when you put it in prospective for the time donaire was much more impressive then a recycled timmy fight.


            also, rios was NOT just as good of win as agbeko (a person would only say that if they didn't know anything about the lower weight divisions) agbeko had fought mares, (he really won the first fight against mares) perez, Sydorenko, Darchinyan. and now rigo. thats almost every solid opponent around those divisions. the only 2 guys that he didn't fight was mareno & donaire. he also had a nice little win against Melendez before fighting rigo (a win) agbeko has never lost to a guy like alvarado (never) his only 3 losses has come from perez (he avenged this loss) mares & rigo. again.........rios was coming off of a lost to alvarado at 140 before fighting pac (how in the hell is that comparable to agbeko) it's not.
            Last edited by Godsfly; 04-19-2014, 04:00 PM.

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              #66
              In this site I have heard such ******ation like GGG is p4p #2 so have that in mind when you look at your results and the list of ppl that say no.

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                #67
                I'm sorry but Rigondeaux is 120 lbs. and shouldn't be anywhere near that list.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by GhostBlade View Post
                  I'm sorry but Rigondeaux is 120 lbs. and shouldn't be anywhere near that list.
                  P4P, does that ring a bell?

                  In my opinion, those are the best 3 without a doubt!

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                    #69
                    I'm from the Bay Area and Ward is my boy but I'd have to leave him off that list due to inactivity. My list would read Mayweather, Pac and GGG. Ward has a P4P skillset but he doesn't fight often enough, honorable mention to Rigo.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Basco View Post
                      P4P, does that ring a bell?

                      In my opinion, those are the best 3 without a doubt!
                      I hate the term pound for pound when it comes to fighters. You should be judged as a whole with all fighters and not just in your weight class. Like I look at Golovkin and think he's good but someone like Arreola would murder him so he is better.

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