history repeats its self once again!! if this fight does happen!!! it would just be floyd fighting another fighter past his prime!!! examples : cotto, mosley, ODL in his prime! , P Williams, maravilla martinez!! and now pacman!!! cherry picking floyd
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Originally posted by Evol View Postlol @ zab and Mosley getting shut out from Floyd. Ain't nobody was even going that far, did zab and Mosley not hurt Floyd? That's it. Nobody is talking about look what happen after that or look who won the fight.
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Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View PostSorry, its true. He's been hit flush plenty of times. There really isnt room for debate.
Great reflexes can hide bad chins. But, to be honest, I don't remember Roy ever getting rang up by anybody until he was shot. And, Roy fought two of the best middleweights of all-time in their prime (Toney and Bernard). Floyd has fought nobody comparable in their prime and has still been rung up).
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Originally posted by hillbilly View PostNo, he hasn't. Floyd rarely gets hit and when he does, he looks bad. I'd say Floyd's chin looks below average. When he starts getting hit as he fades, will it end up being complete crap like Roy Jones? Who knows, but Floyd's been hurt by one punch on more than one occasion--and some of those were by guys that have average power (Chop Chop Corley). A completely shot Mosley rang his bell with a straight right too and Zab knocked him down.
Great reflexes can hide bad chins. But, to be honest, I don't remember Roy ever getting rang up by anybody until he was shot. And, Roy fought two of the best middleweights of all-time in their prime (Toney and Bernard). Floyd has fought nobody comparable in their prime and has still been rung up).
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Originally posted by Lou Cipher View PostFloyd Roid would never step up and challenge Manny so what's the difference.
Originally posted by Evol View PostTell that to his opponents face lol.. They all leave busted up. What u meant to say is PAC hasn't ko anyone in 5 years. That doesn't mean his powers is shot.
Originally posted by Luilun View PostIt's hard to show power if your opponents other than Marquez show up to survive run around the ring and hold
Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostFloyd also knows he is likely to get KTFO by Pacquiao, that is why he has ducked him for the last 5 years.
Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostWith Manny's mind set change, Pacquiao is much more likely to school Floyd rather than get the KO and when Floyd's feel the power he is much more likely to cover up and go into his shell just trying to finish on his feet like so many that have come before.
Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View PostTo beat Pasquaio I think you have to be willing to trade with him like Marquez did in all their fights. If you run and try to pot shot him, you're gonna lose rounds because he throws 4-5 punch combinations.
Would Floyd be able to move and hit him with 1 or 2 punch combos all night and be able to avoid getting into a real war with him? Maybe, but I think at some point Manny would land some straight left hands and we'd see how Floyd reacts to it. He's not going to stand toe to toe because unlike all these recent guys Floyd has fought, Manny actually has great hand speed and hits from different angles..it would be a good fight just based on the different styles. People who compare Marquez and Floyds counter punching styles don't see the difference in their offensive output. Everyone who fights Manny looks like they've been in a war afterwards, win or lose...
Originally posted by Evol View PostI have a better idea, go watch his last fight with rios and then u tell me? Why go all the way back to the Mosley fight? Oh right because thats the only fight u can say that PAC didn't cut the ring off.
Originally posted by StrangerInTown View PostAn honest appraisal from Shane.
I just don't think Floyd can get the W against Manny and Floyd knows it.
With that single loss his stock would plummet as fast as the Broner Minstrel Show.
Still, I think Pac/Mayweather will take place in Sept. with Floyd calling it a career in a rematch the following year.
Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View PostAll Floyd should say at this point is "I'm fighting the winner of Pacquiao/Bradley in september"
All the s*** he talks never adds up to anything but fights against over matched nobody's.... Good for him I guess the 2 best Welters fight for Bob Arum..Easy way out....
Originally posted by twosweethooks View PostYou boys are so funny
answer me this, just try, I know its a strain.
After reading some posts it comes down to that Jr can easily whup Pac
THEN
here's da question:
WHY hasn't he done then ? ITs the biggest money fight out there !!!!
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Originally posted by sosiqwitit View Postyou were almost right but you use canelo's slow as s as an example. manny has speed that canelo only can dream of. manny also got the skills you speak of. he has skills, speed, and power, a deadly combination that could give floyd a run for his money and if manny had his stamina and endurance of old then things could get very interesting. but I still give floyd a slight edge because of his boxing acumen.
Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View PostWhy's that? Floyd got dropped by Zab even though they didn't call it a knock down when his gloves hit the canvas. Shane rocked him with a single right hand..To definitively say he would have no problem would be crazy.
Originally posted by doninlouisiana View PostNo Floyd has exceptional reflhe has not been hit flush very often in his career. The couple of times that I have seen clean shots he was hurt to some extent. I believe one of thexes, e reason's he has not fought Pacquiao is Manny's speed, for once in his career Floyd would be the slower fighter. He fears that fact, along with Manny's power.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostThey didn't hurt him that bad. Corley rocked Mayweather too but Floyd is excellent at recovering.
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Originally posted by hillbilly View PostThe problem is though that Corley shouldn't have been able to rock Floyd. Can you name any other top tier fighter that Corley rocked like that? Corley's power was never great. Great chins are guys that get hit by people with thunderous power and don't get hurt. We can all agree that floyd doesn't have a great chin. He recovers fast though, as you say. That means a lot. Look at Evander Holyfiled. he got hurt by lots of people, but he was damn near impossible to put away because he recovered so quickly.Last edited by GRUSTLER; 01-27-2014, 04:02 PM.
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