Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Turns His Back on Mayweather Fight, For Now

[jwheels9876]

in the meantime maybe he could fight a WW?

Do you consider Bradley a WW? How about Amir Khan?

[Phenom]

Do you consider Bradley a WW? How about Amir Khan?

Bradley fought Cassa at 140 few months before the Pacquiao fight

[jwheels9876]

Bradley fought Cassa at 140 few months before the Pacquiao fight

And Khan? Lol....come on, honestly most guys at 140 could fight at 147.. They come in at 150-155. Garcia,Provo,Mattysee,Khan all of them can get to 147 fairly easy I'm sure.

[ModernTalking]

And Khan? Lol....come on, honestly most guys at 140 could fight at 147.. They come in at 150-155. Garcia,Provo,Mattysee,Khan all of them can get to 147 fairly easy I'm sure.

I beat between Garcia, Provo, Mattysee, Khan, and PAC, Pac would be the one to still make 135 easiest.

[JJRod]

Some actual facts:

1st go around:

- In late 2009 after Manny defeated Cotto impressively Floyd and his team reached out to TR to negotiate a Mayweather vs Pacman fight. It was Floyd's team who reached out, not Manny's.

- In late 2009 the OST request was know to team MP.

- Floyd eventually agreed to a 50/50 split down the line, a weight of 147, gloves of 8oz, a standard ring and a $10 mil per pound penalty. This was after he was adamant it would be 60/40, and Roach running his mouth all day about how Floyd wouldn't do the fight at 147. Basically he conceded to be on even footing.

- After this occured OST suddenly became a problem, and we had comical excuses such as blood draining, bruising, USADA being corrupt etc, the list is so silly i still laugh when i remember the tard nation justifying them on NSB.

- TR and co left the negotiating table and tried to blame Mayweather by saying they offered a 14 day cut off and Floyd refused. Retired federal judge who mediated said it didn't happen this way. Clottey fight signed and sealed two weeks later.

- After this fiasco Floyd is very clear that he won't be offering the same terms on OST next go around and he will want no cut off.


2nd go around:

- TR reckons they reached out to Floyd to negotiate a fight despite never actually calling any member of his team. Absurd countdown clock appears on TR website. A great promotional tool by Arum for Manny's next fight. Again "Floyd is ducking Manny" "Floyd is scared" are the go to lines.

3rd round:

- Floyd and his team are the ones to initiate contact again. Terms are again pretty favourable, and at this point Manny has publicly in the media already said OST without a cutoff is no problem. Looks like this might be the time to make the fight.

- The lame excuses start again, as if they weren't lame enough the first time. Everything from who is administering the test, to stadiums needing to be built in Nevada, to staging the fight in Texas or Dubai with it's investors, or a cut that just won't heal and TR and team Pac turn it down again.


4th round

- Floyd calls Manny with a $40mil flat offer. Manny declines. Have no issue with this, he deserves some PPV upside, well within his right to decline it.


So where in all of this has MP or his team initiated a negotiation or signalled a willingness to actually make this fight??

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This pretty much sums it up.
More than the fans, who I expect to defend their fighter, I was disgusted with the media's and the huge pass they gave Manny for refusing OST testing and even asking for all those cut off dates.

[Phenom]

And Khan? Lol....come on, honestly most guys at 140 could fight at 147.. They come in at 150-155. Garcia,Provo,Mattysee,Khan all of them can get to 147 fairly easy I'm sure.

after all the *****ing about Mayweather v Hatton I been reading for years NOW its ok to fight a guy who only has two fights at 140


and I will answer the question for you the last time Pacquiao fought a guy that wasn't moving up or going down in weight was Clottey.... True story

[jwheels9876]

after all the *****ing about Mayweather v Hatton I been reading for years NOW its ok to fight a guy who only has to fights at 140

Floyd fought Hatton when he Had Cotto,Williams,Margarito all wrecking **** at welter though.. I'm not hating on Floyd for fighting Khan because frankly there is nobody for him to fight if he won't fight Manny.
But, I still think Khan has no right getting the fight based on his last few years ....
And I dont care that Manny fought Rios either...they wanted Marquez again and offered Bradley but both turned it down. TR stable is terribly thin at 140-147 so options are limited .

[jwheels9876]

after all the *****ing about Mayweather v Hatton I been reading for years NOW its ok to fight a guy who only has two fights at 140


and I will answer the question for you the last time Pacquiao fought a guy that wasn't moving up or going down in weight was Clottey.... True story

Here's the thing, if your skill level is much higher then the guy you're facing, the 4-5 pounds extra is not a factor. Canelo vs May weather would have been the same at 154. Manny vs Margarito at 154 same and Cotto vs Manny or Floyd at either weight same results...

[rasdun]

Expect this post to be ignored or not adressed in an intelligent matter.

ANY TAKERS? P@ct@rds where are you?

how bout - Floyd wont fight Pac bc he wouldnt agree to extra steroid testing that no one agreed to in history of boxing
then, they try to make fight 6 mo lagter and even HBO acknowledges as an impartial 3rd party that TR reached out - floyd says he's on vacation and doesnt fight for app 16 mo.
then they try to make fight again and now the purse split if the issur. Floyd offers fkat fee of 40 mil for a fight thats worth approx 300 mil - an offer thats intended to be turnde down.
Now Floyd comes up with yet another excuse - Now he wont even consider fighting Pac bc hes promoted by TR.
Its alwats a different roadblock - steroid testingm vacation, purse split, Pac's promotional affiliation.
but, yeah - floyd really wants the fight. LMFAO!

[JJRod]

how bout - Floyd wont fight Pac bc he wouldnt agree to extra steroid testing that no one agreed to in history of boxing
then, they try to make fight 6 mo lagter and even HBO acknowledges as an impartial 3rd party that TR reached out - floyd says he's on vacation and doesnt fight for app 16 mo.
then they try to make fight again and now the purse split if the issur. Floyd offers fkat fee of 40 mil for a fight thats worth approx 300 mil - an offer thats intended to be turnde down.
Now Floyd comes up with yet another excuse - Now he wont even consider fighting Pac bc hes promoted by TR.
Its alwats a different roadblock - steroid testingm vacation, purse split, Pac's promotional affiliation.
but, yeah - floyd really wants the fight. LMFAO!

You still have to ask yourself, why he would refuse to agree to this simple request? After all Mayweather said yes to all of Manny's request. 10million per pound overweight, 8 oz gloves for a fight in Nevada, where the NSAC requires 10oz gloves for a welterweight fight.