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    #81
    That guy, Bob Arum, he sure knows how to talk to fools...lol

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      #82
      The thing is that,cotto is not ****** like rosado,cotto knows that if gbp is paying him 10mil to fight canelo,is only because they are bringing him in to get robbed on a decision and loose so that canelo rises in fame again. Cotto knows this and is not gonna drown his fame and pride over 10 mil.Arum on the other hand however is offering cotto 5 mill along with a true and legitimate opportunity to win a 4th title and become a star again,howver cotto is ****** naive and dilusional.If you were cotto who would you choose? Sad thing is cotto will get seriously hurt and possibly killed by facing martinez. I would pay $100 ppv to see sergio kill cotto.

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        #83
        Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
        Dude, HBO takes 10% from every PPV buy, then the major cable companies, Cablevision, Time Warner, Comcast, Charter, Cox, also get their share, which is not peanuts.

        Mayweather-De La Hoya sold 2.4million PPV's and $130mill PPV revenue plus $19 million gate revenue, for a total of $150 million dollars. DLH got his $50mill, Mayweather his $30mill. Oh wait a minute, where did the rest of the money go? There's $70 mill left, who took them?
        To give me some leeway, let say it tops at 600k like you said at $60 per buy (lets ignore the extra $10 HD). That's $36M in revenue. HBO gets 10%. That's $32.4M left. Other 50% for cable/satellite, and thats' 16.2M left from PPV revenue. Gate will be $3M and the cost to rent MSG is $500K, so lets add $2.5M to $16.2M. That's $18.7M. Lets add 1 million for rebroadcast fee, international revenue, and sponsorships. That's 19.7M. Lets subtract 500K for the undercard and 1.2M for advertising/other expenses. That's $18M left over. Martinez gets 5 million and what he pays Dibella is his problem. Thats $13M left over for Arum, Cotto, and NY taxes. Assuming Arum gets 20% and 7.5% for taxes, that's approximately 10M for Cotto without having to pay Martinez $5K.

        Am I off somewhere? Surely, I am. But more or less 10M for cotto doesn't sound outrages to me.

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          #84
          Cotto...gotta like this guy. Willing to take on any fighter.

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            #85
            Cotto wont make crap if arum is promoting it. He will rob cotto blind...lol This is why cotto left in the first place. From a financial standpoint, cotto might profit more becuase as one poster said...sergio isnt a draw. PPV might be okay. But canelo-cotto will be bigger. Cottos team should do what Cooneys team did against Holmes; demand equal pay of canelo. Canelo cant do cotto like numbers with anyone else.....lara, angulo, trout, nobody at 54 .

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              #86
              Floyd fans are confused why cotto is taking more risk and improving his legacy by fighting martinez, lol thats what warriors do...

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                #87
                Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                What evidence does Arum have for this "They know that the money from the pay-per-view, tickets and everything else tha's involved will generate much more revenue than anything offered by Golden Boy or anything that might generate in a fight between Miguel and Canelo."

                is he talking out of his old wrinkly ass?

                Canelo just came off a 2.2million PPV and has a fanbase larger than any fighter Cotto could fight right now. What the hell has Martinez done on PPV since doing 500k with Chavez Jr, another Mexican?

                I really think Cotto-Canelo flirts with 1million PPVs. Cotto-Martinez doing 600k would be tops. Gate revenue would be much better for Cotto-Canelo too, they would need a stadium to meet the demand for Cotto-Canelo.
                Comes down to HBO has more money then Showtime cause of Mayweather..Alvarez will never make anything close to that money he made with Mayweather again..Mayweather was just as responsible for the way the PPV sold then Alvarez was..HBO not having to pay Mayweather anymore means they can pay their fighters more money..I truly believe Cotto makes more fighting on HBO then going to Showtime..

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                  #88
                  Cotto is afraid of Canelo, period. His brother already got beaten. His excuse of the date is ******. No big difference with the Martinez date. Martinez will beat Cotto and therefore the latter wonīt fight Canelo and if he does and gets beaten, people will say Canelo beat an over the hill Cotto.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                    Comes down to HBO has more money then Showtime cause of Mayweather..Alvarez will never make anything close to that money he made with Mayweather again..Mayweather was just as responsible for the way the PPV sold then Alvarez was..HBO not having to pay Mayweather anymore means they can pay their fighters more money..I truly believe Cotto makes more fighting on HBO then going to Showtime..
                    Yes he would. The biggest fan bases are Mexican and P Rican. If Canelo had beaten Floyd and Cotto too, their fight would generate more than anything Floyd generates. The thing with Floyd is a component of capitalism, were marketung plays a major role in portraying Floyd as the villian and undefeated pound for pound the best ( he isnīt ). So other than his fans ( Canelo and Cotto have more), people actaully pay to see him lose. Just like a wrestler who plays the role of the bad guy. If Floyd had two losses, half the audience wonīt care about him. Matter of fact, most people think he is boring.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by budfr View Post
                      Yes he would. The biggest fan bases are Mexican and P Rican. If Canelo had beaten Floyd and Cotto too, their fight would generate more than anything Floyd generates. The thing with Floyd is a component of capitalism, were marketung plays a major role in portraying Floyd as the villian and undefeated pound for pound the best ( he isnīt ). So other than his fans ( Canelo and Cotto have more), people actaully pay to see him lose. Just like a wrestler who plays the role of the bad guy. If Floyd had two losses, half the audience wonīt care about him. Matter of fact, most people think he is boring.


                      Well that's cause most people are fuccking morons..That are not fans(or students)of boxing in it's purest form..Quick question(just so I know who I'm chatting with)do you find him boring??

                      Anyway,who can he make that kinda money with again on his own merit??Believe me,the biggest reason Alvarez wants Cotto is because he feels as if he can make some real money with him..Which he can,Cotto is a true draw in the sport..Do you believe for a sec that Alvarez makes even 5 mill fighting Lara??There's a difference between being a real draw,and being a guy with Buzz..Cotto was a very big draw in this sport,where he could fight nobody and still make 3 to 4 mill..Sell out big crowds,Alvarez has drawing power no doubt about it..I don't believe he is in the class of Cotto Pac or Mayweather yet..

                      Alvarez has tons of work to do,if he ever hopes to be anywhere close to the draw that Mayweather is..no matter,why you think Mayweather is a draw..He is a draw,and the biggest one in the sport..Oh and you saying Mayweather is not the top fighter in this sport is pure comedy..

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