I have to disagree, it sure aint Golovkin who is gonna beat Mayweather

[The Big Dunn]

Mayweather's jab would get there before GGG's jab and it would give Floyd space and opportunities to punch and get out. I reckon it will look a lot like the Castillo rematch with Floyd fighting off the backfoot basically the whole fight and boxing.

Golovkin's "mastery" of cutting the ring off is getting a little overrated here IMO as the best fighter he fought was Matthew Macklin His jab is also good but he does waste them sometimes. Floyd could counter over that easily.

GGG definitely has the skills and power to beat floyd. After sat night I get the sense it will either be a GGG KO or a floyd/baldomir or floyd/ghost pop and move fest, no in between.

[BUNGALOWS]

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now you've resorted to flat out lying huh..........

seek help.............
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Is this thread supposed to make me look bad?

Bojangles and other posters are agreeing with me the whole time, and we're analytically, discussing boxing.

This thread wasn't even about Lucas and Danny. It was about guys like you discrediting Lucas.

Thank you for making me look good.

And again, you're a troll.

LMAO.

[SplitSecond]

Are you sure cotto outjabbed floyd? I believe floyd threw and landed more jabs but they may have had the same connect %.

ODH some chances in some rounds but lets not over exaggerate what he did. ODH, who has a longer reach than GGG, stopped jabbing because he was getting countered. Not enough to knock him down, but enough to make him protect himself and not punch. Something to consider.

All the guys you listed lost big. You seem to be inflating what they did to a degree. Yes they had a couple of rounds (except vic) where they had some success, but that hardly equates to a whole fight.

In the end, all of them had a lower output than previous opponents and a lower connect %, which is why I said floyd gets them to fight "his fight".

how many of floyd's opponents haven;t lost big?

most of them have, regardless of style, but you know what style has been the closest, same style every time

hatton
cotto
hoya
castillo

pressure brusts pipes

these guys came the closest to beating floyd, and none of them come close to golovkins experience besides hoya, if we are talking now, golovkin wouldn't be as old, nor would he fight as tiring a fight as hoya with various flurries
he has a better right hand and picks his shots better with a better use for the jab(although hoya's was damn good too)

[mrlopez]

the ts might be correct, but the fact of the matter is that the only 2 people who will make a good fight with may imo are ggg and pac....too bad we'll never see these two fights come to fruition

[Holywarrior]

how many of floyd's opponents haven;t lost big?

most of them have, regardless of style, but you know what style has been the closest, same style every time

hatton
cotto
hoya
castillo

pressure brusts pipes

these guys came the closest to beating floyd, and none of them come close to golovkins experience besides hoya, if we are talking now, golovkin wouldn't be as old, nor would he fight as tiring a fight as hoya with various flurries
he has a better right hand and picks his shots better with a better use for the jab(although hoya's was good too)

delahoya had one of the best jabs ever when he used it though. golovkins jab is not on that level at all and cotto and oscar really only won 3-4 rounds if were being honest.

rosado was able to move away from golovkin a lot of the time as well a guy with the legs and defensive ability of mayweather could do it

[Godsfly]

cotto's reach is 67" and he didn't have much problem out jabbing floyd
golovkins jab > cotto's jab
cotto is a strong single punch, golovkins is a strong swarm of punches and he doesn't really stop pumping it unless you move out or fight him off

floyds stamina is impressive for his age, but i've noticed him take rounds off, if he runs it will make it even worse when he is resting and ggg is connecting

look at how hoya cornered floyd with his jab and had all those oppurtunities to combo on floyd while he was caught on the ropes and the right hook to the body was there all night for him
a couple of mixed in right hands, or some feints, floyd will turn away from the right, pressured by that jab, and get clubbed over the head by a right from golovkin

and the "floyd has made every fighter fight his fight" seems like bull
cotto wanted to pressure and did so
ortiz wanted to pressure and did so
hatton, castillo(atleast in the first), hoya
alvarez and marquez wanted to counter and floyd did lead alot in these fights, floyd was simply too fast, too intelligent
guerrero wanted to counter too, but floyd and co. thought he was coming to make it a brawl like vs berto, although floyd did nullify guerrero's strategy(like in castillo II) in teh championship rd's

edit: oh and incase you think im just bullshtting about guerrero and canelo's strategy going in, listen to their corners, guerrero's telling him to wait and counter floyd with an uppercut, alvarez in the entire lead up to the fight just going on about how he can box with mayweather

even though watching the first rounds should make this clear

man this post has so many holes but I'll just address one and give you some time to respond.

golovkins jab isn't better then cottos. cottos jab is quicker has the better timing & is actually proven on world level........he landed that jab against clottey, marg, pac, & judah. who has golovkin landed that jab on that was actually world level? stevens? ishida? is this some kind of joke.............my point is when you fight high competition you will have guys that are able to bob & weave, roll punches, take the jab away from you. cottos jab is proven on a world level..........you can't compare that with golovkin jabbing ishida.

it's ridiculous.

[SplitSecond]

delahoya had one of the best jabs ever when he used it though. golovkins jab is not on that level at all and cotto and oscar really only won 3-4 rounds if were being honest.

rosado was able to move away from golovkin a lot of the time as well a guy with the legs and defensive ability of mayweather could do it

hoya's jab was fast and was strong, he could throw it like a mad man, but golovkins is more strategically placed, better mixed with his hooks, better made to set up the right etc

rosado was moving alot, still getting hit alot, and you can't really shoulder roll when you move like that, also doubt floyd could keep it up the entire fight, golovkin is heavy handed and he will slow floyd down, then it's a matter of whether floyd can fight his way to the final bell

[FrankieBruno]

Floyd cant even make 152, he doesn't belong in the ring with a guy the size of GGG, that's a freak match up.

GGG needs to fight guys in his own weight class and eventually move up. Moving down is just ****** imo.

and Floyd needs to stay at 148

I know people are desperate to want to see Floyd lose, but there is a limit a guy can go.

[Holywarrior]

hoya's jab was fast and was strong, he could throw it like a mad man, but golovkins is more strategically placed, better mixed with his hooks, better made to set up the right etc

he doesn't really hook off his jab, most of them are to set up his right, which is good, but he also leaves it out there far too long and wastes a lot of them as he probes with it at range.

floyd would take advantage of that. he also has legendary stamina and would have no problem moving all night.

[Godsfly]

Is this thread supposed to make me look bad?

Bojangles and other posters are agreeing with me the whole time, and we're analytically, discussing boxing.

This thread wasn't even about Lucas and Danny. It was about guys like you discrediting Lucas.

Thank you for making me look good.

And again, you're a troll.

LMAO.

how can you tell me what my thread (that i created) was about?

the thread was about mythesses vs garcia, the breakdown of his style. is he up there with the likes of marquez mayweather pac (because you had people saying this) and how does his skin react to well placed shots. it was a all around break down of lucas mythesse.

& yes, you do look bad because the thread is there for all to see you hurling insults and trolling