I have to disagree, it sure aint Golovkin who is gonna beat Mayweather

[The Big Dunn]

You need to understand the fight game. GGG's speed doesn'tcome into the equation because of his style and his jab.

He can keep Floyd at the end of his punch, and hes very good at the distance game.

He applies long, pressure. The type of pressure where you're still at the end of his punch.

This isn't Hatton, Ortiz or Cotto pressuring Floyd. Its a full fledged MW, whose sole style is to in fact pressure you.

Floyd will always be the one that has to fight the perfect fight from the get go. GGG has room for errors in this fight.

Understand the game.

AT what point does GGG's attempts at trapping a smaller, far quicker fighter begin to sap his stamina? How will GGG's stamina be affected by the many missed punches he will have? How does he apply his long pressure and fight from a distance when his reach is about 70 in and floyd's is 72 in?

ARe we doing a complete analysis or are we only going to focus on the advntages GGG has and judge the potential fight from that angle? WOuld his pucnh output drop? would his lack of defense cause problems?

GGG would have a good chance to win IMO. I'm just asking that any analysis look at both fighters strengths and weaknesses.

[The Big Dunn]

Because he would never fight GGG in the first place.

find it hard to believe golovkin makes 154 healthy, or that floyd would fight him

but otherwise, golovkin has a great chance of beating floyd, he doesn't rush in for you to circle out on him, he keeps you on the ropes and steps with you, while peppering you with big jabs, constantly, that would make it difficult for floyd to roll, the jabs are constant and golovkin will likely be on top of floyd the entire fight, floyd will eat alot of heavy jabs, and right hooks to the body

i think it would be tough until golovkin stops floyd late in the fight, around the 10th

I wonder what you guys would say if GGG was a showtime fighter and sho and his management kept discussing a manny fight to gain more attention?

[brick wall]

you guys don't know **** about fantasy boxing...take it from the floyd fanboys

[SplitSecond]

AT what point does GGG's attempts at trapping a smaller, far quicker fighter begin to sap his stamina? How will GGG's stamina be affected by the many missed punches he will have? How does he apply his long pressure and fight from a distance when his reach is about 70 in and floyd's is 72 in?

ARe we doing a complete analysis or are we only going to focus on the advntages GGG has and judge the potential fight from that angle? WOuld his pucnh output drop? would his lack of defense cause problems?

GGG would have a good chance to win IMO. I'm just asking that any analysis look at both fighters strengths and weaknesses.

golovkin doesn't swing like a ******, he rarely misses punches, he makes sure you are in a vulnerable position with his jab first
it's hard to be elusive against a guy like golovkin(if you've boxed before you'll know why), you have to fight them off or really sprint for the entire fight(which will kill any fighter), so really the only realistic option is to fight him

[BUNGALOWS]

AT what point does GGG's attempts at trapping a smaller, far quicker fighter begin to sap his stamina? How will GGG's stamina be affected by the many missed punches he will have? How does he apply his long pressure and fight from a distance when his reach is about 70 in and floyd's is 72 in?

ARe we doing a complete analysis or are we only going to focus on the advantages GGG has and judge the potential fight from that angle? WOuld his pucnh output drop? would his lack of defense cause problems?

GGG would have a good chance to win IMO. I'm just asking that any analysis look at both fighters strengths and weaknesses.

Smaller? Last time I checked, that's an advantage for GGG, and the reason why Floyd Sr. said FLoyd should stay away from him and Sergio.

Far quicker? Floyd would be fighting at MW. He can come in at 150, and give up 15-20 lbs. to GGG all he wants, but that's suicide. Also, if he comes in heavier, that's might even be worse for him.

Long pressure, compared to a Cotto, Ortiz, Castillo, definitely. He works behind a long, snapping jab, and places his shots. Like I said before. When he does get Floyd to the ropes, he's not getting check hooked into the turnbuckles, and that pressures going to be there from the beginning. You guys just don't get how lopsided this fight really is.

Well, obviously, we already know where your coming from. The Floyd brigade, so I'm pointing out how unfair this fight is for Floyd. It's the exact style that causes him problems, but at MW for God's sake.

"Canelo should've applied pressure, and went balls out from the beginning! Why did he box with Floyd!?"

Guess what, GGG does do that from the beginning, and he's the master at doing that, while being a full fledged MW. I don't know how many times I have to say this.

And yes, when I'm breaking this fight down, I am looking at both fighters strengths and weaknesses. This is Floyd we're talking about. We all should know his strengths and weaknesses by now. It's the job as the person replying to make their case, and proved reasons why a certain fighter will win.

That's just common sense.

[Evil Abed]

I always hear the argument that you need a jab to beat Floyd.

Golovkin is all about the jab.

Don't know the outcome. Just sayin

[BUNGALOWS]

golovkin doesn't swing like a ******, he rarely misses punches, he makes sure you are in a vulnerable position with his jab first
it's hard to be elusive against a guy like golovkin(if you've boxed before you'll know why), you have to fight them off or really sprint for the entire fight(which will kill any fighter), so really the only realistic option is to fight him

I'm not saying good post, because I agree with you, and you think GGG wins, but good post, because you actually know what you're talking about.

[The Big Dunn]

golovkin doesn't swing like a ******, he rarely misses punches, he makes sure you are in a vulnerable position with his jab first
it's hard to be elusive against a guy like golovkin(if you've boxed before you'll know why), you have to fight them off or really sprint for the entire fight(which will kill any fighter), so really the only realistic option is to fight him

Not alot of floyd's opponents swing like ******s. Yet, their punch output drops and they miss more of their punches. I agree about GGG's jab, but you haven't answered how he overcomes a 2 inch reach disadvantage against the best boxer he will ever face.

My guess is a fight bewteen the 2 will be contested in the largest ring possible. Has ggg fought alot in 20 x 20 rings? Has he ever had to chase down a fighter with floyd's stamina and movement? SInce you don't know the answers it seems short sighted to just assume GGG will have the same success you are used to seeing him have. I think reasonable people would agree.

Floyd has made virtually every fighter he's faced fight "his" fight. WHy would GGG, with less speed and a smaller reach, change this? Again, you can't just assume he lands all his body shots like he has against larger, less mobile, less skilled, fighters.

[BUNGALOWS]

[QUOTE]

Not alot of floyd's opponents swing like ******s. Yet, their punch output drops and they miss more of their punches. I agree about GGG's jab, but you haven't answered how he overcomes a 2 inch reach disadvantage against the best boxer he will ever face.

GGG doesn't use the jab to box with you (yes, I know, he's boxing, but you know what I mean). He uses that jab to pressure you, and give you something to think about as he's pressuring you.

My guess is a fight bewteen the 2 will be contested in the largest ring possible. Has ggg fought alot in 20 x 20 rings? Has he ever had to chase down a fighter with floyd's stamina and movement? SInce you don't know the answers it seems short sighted to just assume GGG will have the same success you are used to seeing him have. I think reasonable people would agree.

Has Floyd faced a MW that's mastered the art of cutting a ring off, and with his power, patience, accuracy, shot placement, variety of punches, and absolutely no way of getting hurt at MW? Floyd poses absolutely no deterrent to him coming forward on him all night, and every second of the fight. I don't care how great your stamina is. It takes 1 GGG body shot to end the fight or to have you in survival mode, all night.

Floyd has made virtually every fighter he's faced fight "his" fight. WHy would GGG, with less speed and a smaller reach, change this? Again, you can't just assume he lands all his body shots like he has against larger, less mobile, less skilled, fighters.

Again, Floyd hasn't faced a MW, pressure fighter, with GGG's power, and ring cutting abilities.

If you'd actually not think about Floyd, 24/7, you'd see the light, and see how bad of a match this is for Floyd.

[Holywarrior]

I honestly think Golovkin would be outboxed by Mayweather. Mayweather is not a Matthew Macklin or friggin Ishida.