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    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
    The fight was never, EVER, rejected, what was rejected was the random blood testing etc. That happened almost 3 years ago, since then Manny agreed and I think the initial deal that followed was testing with a 14 day cut off. Floyd's team said no to that, Manny's team came back ,some time later and said that it was ok, all testing ,whenever. That's not speculation, that's fact. Go through the countless articles that popped up over the time.

    Floyd now has no reason to duck a Manny fight and yet his fans still being up the drugs debate as if it's still relevant, news flash kids, it's not.

    But the problem with Floyd's legacy is NOT Manny Pacquiao, it's that, more than any other sublimely gifted fighter in history, Floyd has more "what ifs" in his career. Name me any other fight where you can rattle off a list of 6 or 7 primed, champions that the main man never fought.

    Hauser has stated in his article, both parts, I recommend all the Floyd **** lickers to read part two as well, that Floyd is a great fighter but like many other undefeated fighters, he will never be considered amongst the greatest. Again, that's not opinion, that's fact.

    I personally believe that in terms of ATG rankings, Manny and Floyd shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Can you imagine if we were talking about Manny not having fought Marquez, Barrera and Morales? Manny was a certified ATG by the time he was in his mid 20s, Floyd at the time was still scratching and scraping his way along.

    Can you point at Manny and say what if???? The only what if I see is Manny fighting a better version of Mosley, that is LITERALLY it, who else is he supposed to have fought?

    Manny beat Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, Margarito, Ledwabo, Oscar, we all know he beat Bradley too.

    In at least 3 of those fights he was an underdog, which just goes to show he took risks when they were meant to be taken.

    People point at Mayweather v Canelo as his most dangerous fight since Oscar...Floyd was a 9-1 favourite going into the match up. It wasn't show much boxing as it was theater. If we even include Cotto as Floyd's most "dangerous" opponent since Oscar, we see that Floyd was at the very least a 3-1 favourite in that.

    What Hauser has done with his articles is put Floyd's achievements into perspective. He has pulled Floyd Mayweather's world into reality and dismissed the fairy tale of this supposed greatest ever.

    You can hate him for that if you must but he haas used fact, not opinion based on blond lover or hate. Deal with it.
    he was underdog against odh and ledbawa. he took the ledbawa fight as a substiitue on 2 weeks notice, any pro making **** money takes a campionship fight in that circumstance. he took the odh fight for the money. niether was noble or brave.

    where are the floyd, zab, zahir raheem, pwill, or joan guzman fights?

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      Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
      The fight was never, EVER, rejected, what was rejected was the random blood testing etc. That happened almost 3 years ago, since then Manny agreed and I think the initial deal that followed was testing with a 14 day cut off. Floyd's team said no to that, Manny's team came back ,some time later and said that it was ok, all testing ,whenever. That's not speculation, that's fact. Go through the countless articles that popped up over the time.

      Floyd now has no reason to duck a Manny fight and yet his fans still being up the drugs debate as if it's still relevant, news flash kids, it's not.

      But the problem with Floyd's legacy is NOT Manny Pacquiao, it's that, more than any other sublimely gifted fighter in history, Floyd has more "what ifs" in his career. Name me any other fight where you can rattle off a list of 6 or 7 primed, champions that the main man never fought.

      Hauser has stated in his article, both parts, I recommend all the Floyd **** lickers to read part two as well, that Floyd is a great fighter but like many other undefeated fighters, he will never be considered amongst the greatest. Again, that's not opinion, that's fact.

      I personally believe that in terms of ATG rankings, Manny and Floyd shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Can you imagine if we were talking about Manny not having fought Marquez, Barrera and Morales? Manny was a certified ATG by the time he was in his mid 20s, Floyd at the time was still scratching and scraping his way along.

      Can you point at Manny and say what if???? The only what if I see is Manny fighting a better version of Mosley, that is LITERALLY it, who else is he supposed to have fought?

      Manny beat Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, Margarito, Ledwabo, Oscar, we all know he beat Bradley too.

      In at least 3 of those fights he was an underdog, which just goes to show he took risks when they were meant to be taken.

      People point at Mayweather v Canelo as his most dangerous fight since Oscar...Floyd was a 9-1 favourite going into the match up. It wasn't show much boxing as it was theater. If we even include Cotto as Floyd's most "dangerous" opponent since Oscar, we see that Floyd was at the very least a 3-1 favourite in that.

      What Hauser has done with his articles is put Floyd's achievements into perspective. He has pulled Floyd Mayweather's world into reality and dismissed the fairy tale of this supposed greatest ever.

      You can hate him for that if you must but he haas used fact, not opinion based on blond lover or hate. Deal with it.
      Yeah try using smaller posts cause i dont want read all this biased hate. Maybe one or two paragraphs but not a novel. Lot of built hate in this post im guessing

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        Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
        The fight was never, EVER, rejected, what was rejected was the random blood testing etc. That happened almost 3 years ago, since then Manny agreed and I think the initial deal that followed was testing with a 14 day cut off. Floyd's team said no to that, Manny's team came back ,some time later and said that it was ok, all testing ,whenever. That's not speculation, that's fact. Go through the countless articles that popped up over the time.

        Floyd now has no reason to duck a Manny fight and yet his fans still being up the drugs debate as if it's still relevant, news flash kids, it's not.

        But the problem with Floyd's legacy is NOT Manny Pacquiao, it's that, more than any other sublimely gifted fighter in history, Floyd has more "what ifs" in his career. Name me any other fight where you can rattle off a list of 6 or 7 primed, champions that the main man never fought.

        Hauser has stated in his article, both parts, I recommend all the Floyd **** lickers to read part two as well, that Floyd is a great fighter but like many other undefeated fighters, he will never be considered amongst the greatest. Again, that's not opinion, that's fact.

        I personally believe that in terms of ATG rankings, Manny and Floyd shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Can you imagine if we were talking about Manny not having fought Marquez, Barrera and Morales? Manny was a certified ATG by the time he was in his mid 20s, Floyd at the time was still scratching and scraping his way along.

        Can you point at Manny and say what if???? The only what if I see is Manny fighting a better version of Mosley, that is LITERALLY it, who else is he supposed to have fought?

        Manny beat Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, Margarito, Ledwabo, Oscar, we all know he beat Bradley too.

        In at least 3 of those fights he was an underdog, which just goes to show he took risks when they were meant to be taken.

        People point at Mayweather v Canelo as his most dangerous fight since Oscar...Floyd was a 9-1 favourite going into the match up. It wasn't show much boxing as it was theater. If we even include Cotto as Floyd's most "dangerous" opponent since Oscar, we see that Floyd was at the very least a 3-1 favourite in that.

        What Hauser has done with his articles is put Floyd's achievements into perspective. He has pulled Floyd Mayweather's world into reality and dismissed the fairy tale of this supposed greatest ever.

        You can hate him for that if you must but he haas used fact, not opinion based on blond lover or hate. Deal with it.
        Stop making up shot Floyd was never a 9-1 favorite; I was in Vegas for the fight the highest odds were 3-1 and most was 2-1. Canelo had the lowest odds of anybody Floyd has ever fought hell Manny was a 4-1 underdog when Vegas thought the fight was going to happen.

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          Originally posted by Fetta View Post
          You didnt list canelo i kno i was simply saying there is a pattern when it comes to floyd. Ypu cant tell me you havent seen those posts. Every fighter there is an excuse

          Have you not seen floyd fight? I honestly dp not think there is a legit WW out there in the last ten years
          Well you have blank Notches in yer mind mang:

          JR turned down Margo, a PRIME ELITE WW to fight Balto the clown ,,,,I saw with my own eyes the video where Margo went up to JR and JR nearly shi# his britches , and may have ? JR was just like the little boy who said Please don't hit me Please don't, shook Margos hand like a girl, actually scared JR to death.

          Cotto was on and PRIME, an ELITE WW Undefeated and fight WW's, not junk fights to make his resume look good in 2007 and HBO's Larry Merchant pointed that out to JR and challenged HIM<
          etc....................

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            Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
            I agree, no athlete should refuse tests, many have been banned for that offense.

            What you fail to realise is, that Manny did not refuse drug testing, boxing has had drug testing for a couple decades now. What he refused was the drug testing Floyd wanted to implement, which was above and beyond anything that had happened until that point.

            What you also fail to understand is, Manny has accepted the tests on numerous occasions since.
            So why is manny asking for testing now?

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              go 2 agree

              .....he waits 2 the time is right to fight certain opponents....he never fought the boxers when he should have fought them...got 2 agree

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                Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
                Well you have blank Notches in yer mind mang:

                JR turned down Margo, a PRIME ELITE WW to fight Balto the clown ,,,,I saw with my own eyes the video where Margo went up to JR and JR nearly shi# his britches , and may have ? JR was just like the little boy who said Please don't hit me Please don't, shook Margos hand like a girl, actually scared JR to death.

                Cotto was on and PRIME, an ELITE WW Undefeated and fight WW's, not junk fights to make his resume look good in 2007 and HBO's Larry Merchant pointed that out to JR and challenged HIM<
                etc....................
                i dont assume to be a body language expert like yu so i guess i just have to trust you

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                  Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                  No athlete should ever refuse tests! That in itself is rejecting fight. Its common sense man.

                  You want me to shut up cause im raining on you and your boys hate parade
                  Ha,, you ain't got to first base yet mang,,,,you forgot to give the script of Pac refusing to fight JR,,,,go ahead I will wait as long as possible , might have to get outa here shortly but will come back to read the QUOTE "I REFUSE TO FIGHT JR" !!!!

                  OH,,,by the way, its SUNNY HERE

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                    Originally posted by brains4boxing View Post
                    .....he waits 2 the time is right to fight certain opponents....he never fought the boxers when he should have fought them...got 2 agree
                    Excuse for every foghter.

                    Was ortiz past it?
                    Was canelo past it?
                    Mosley was after fight but when he fought pac he was a threat so how does that happen

                    I go on but like i told hook there i a pattern when it cones to floyd

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                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      As much as some of Floyd's fans might want to erase the avoidance of fighting the best from Floyd's legacy, they can't.

                      And when Floyd is judged in the future this avoidance to fight the best will be taking into consideration.
                      but you can make the same claim for many top fighters inculding pacman

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