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Originally posted by Zen_Fighter View PostYou make very good arguments. But don't you still think is still a strong perception that Floyd ducks fights? That is going to haunt his legacy. He may say he doesn't care but you can clearly see it gets into his craw! He could easily put an end to this none sense. He took the correct step with facing Canelo. Big win for Floyd. I don't feel as if it is too late. He can't correct the mistake with Pac. Floyd is in a lose/lose situation if he every faces Pac now. I do blame him for that one.
People still talk about Marciano retiring to avoid Patterson.
Obviously Floyd avoidance of the talented fighters around in his time will be a subject of debate in the future just as it is today.
Marcianno, even though he has a perfect record is not thought as highly as the likes of Ali and Louis because of the standard of his opposition.
Floyd will suffer from that too, and more so because there were the elite fights he could have made happen.
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Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostPeople still talk about Marciano retiring to avoid Patterson.
Obviously Floyd avoidance of the talented fighters around in his time will be a subject of debate in the future just as it is today.
Marcianno, even though he has a perfect record is not thought as highly as the likes of Ali and Louis because of the standard of his opposition.
Floyd will suffer from that too, and more so because there were the elite fights he could have made happen.
WIth that gone, the majority of credible media and fans are focusing on his body of work and are acknowledging how great he is. Their will always be tose that focus elsewhere. same with every other fighter.
There will always be media/fans like you who have an elevated sense of self that will **** the gong loudly to get attention with the hopes of changing the perception of floyd.
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Originally posted by dc3383 View PostWho am I going to listen to every respected fighter and trainer or a geek who never fought decisions decisions. In ten years or so Floyd and Lebron are probably going to be call the greatest ever in there sports because the generation of fans who watch them now will be the ones with the pen and wont have clue or care what Jordan or a Ray Robinson did in the past.
and lastly, still wrong, Jordan is still the benchmark, not lebron, not kobe can replace him maybe someday somebody may come along but not now.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostYou did about the fights he missed saying those weren't good enough. They were all old and past it except JMM even the first Barrera fight Barrera was not at his best. So if you rate guys on reputation and not where they actually are for Manny why do you not do that for Floyd.
Did you just call Cotto one of the best welterweights ever? Watch some more boxing this conversation is not worth having~
And you are a ****ing moron, a piece of hsit, mother****ing, **** licking, **** eating, slime sucking ***tard, if you think Barrera was not at his best when Pacquiao fought him.
If we're done now, you can go **** yourself.
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostI din't call Cotto one of the best ever, one of the best welters of the last decade, yes.
And you are a ****ing moron, a piece of hsit, mother****ing, **** licking, **** eating, slime sucking ***tard, if you think Barrera was not at his best when Pacquiao fought him.
If we're done now, you can go **** yourself.Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostWhat excuses have I made for Manny? I personally don't believe he ducked anyone. For much of 2000-2010, Manny fought from superbantam to superfeather, in that time he fought almost every relevant champion and challenger, including 3 certified ATGs and 3 of the best Mexican fighters not named Julio Cesar Chavez.
Then he ended the decade by beating on a guy that was meant to stop it and then beat on one of the best welterweights ever, who would, 3 years later, give the supposed "best of his era" one of his toughest fights.
Looks to me like you said Cotto was one of the best welters ever? There is no qualification in that statement. This was done but you had to bring up a post that is now days old crying like a spurned teenage girl.
Your boxing take is whack and all you have is name calling because you can't defend your point and get mad when someone does the same thing you do to a fighter you have respect for. What I did to Barrera is exactly what you do to Floyd's opponents and it is all true.
Like I said watch more boxing and we can have an adult boxing conversation until then I will treat you like the novice rookie you are that can't even see his own shortcoming~
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