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Educate me on the Klitchko Brothers. What Hall of Famers have they beat?

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    #11
    Who did Marciano not fight that he should've? Marciano was one fella.....

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      #12
      Originally posted by bravestone View Post
      I actually think Wladmir will be a top 10 ATG great when it's all over. Greater resume wise than Dempsey/Tyson for sure.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Trapsetter View Post
        Who did Marciano not fight that he should've? Marciano was one fella.....
        His best wins were guys in their 40's...Back then it was hard for good boxers to get noticed..
        Today the internet age and with all sorts of tv outlets its easier to get exposure.
        Guys like mathyse would never be given a shot back then..

        Im pretty sure there were tougher guys then old 40 year olds to fight back then...

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          #14
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          No you can't because any other fighters wouldn't be brothers....
          If there was only a single klit then he would be considered greater than they are now just for the simple fact they have to split opponents..

          They have to split the opponents which in the long run hurts each's resume..
          Wlad cant fight arreola cuz Vitali already beat him down, and Vitali wont get much credit for beating haye cuz Wlad already whooped him

          Trust me, if there was only one klit they would be more highly regarded than they are now
          That's nonsense. They're separate men with separate records.

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            #15
            Originally posted by croz
            This is the reason Wlad should fight Holyfield, Mercer and Toney, to satisfy these guy who want HOF names on their records. That's what most of the older guys did after all, just picked off the previous champs when they were washed up. Marcianno's best wins were against 40 year old middleweights, but if he dropped his pants in this thread you guys would blow him. In 50 years the uneducated new fans will look back and see "wow, Wlad KO'd Holyfield in round 1, what a legend," just like supporters of Marcianno and other names do.
            49-0 with 43 KOs

            And still undefeated... Rocky Marciano!


            Posted from krikya360.com App for Android

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              #16
              They don't give anyone a chance to be a HOF. They destroy everyone.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                His best wins were guys in their 40's...Back then it was hard for good boxers to get noticed..
                Today the internet age and with all sorts of tv outlets its easier to get exposure.
                Guys like mathyse would never be given a shot back then..

                Im pretty sure there were tougher guys then old 40 year olds to fight back then...
                Really? Like who then marciano fought everyone

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by the weebler ii View Post
                  that's nonsense. They're separate men with separate records.
                  if they werent brothers they would fight each other in the biggest heavy fight of this era...

                  There in no bigger fight in this era of heavy's then wlad-vitali

                  but they are brothers so they wont fight
                  if ali-frazier or bowe-holyfield were brothers and never fought their legacy would be diminished....

                  Better way to explain it is if vitali had stayed retired, wlad would have beaten all the guys that vitali has since his return, but there is no money is arreola vs wlad cuz vitali already beat him down, haye vs vitali wont be as huge because wlad already beat him down, etc
                  it does hurt their legacies alittle because they will never fight, they have been splitting the divsion between the 2. And between the 2 of them they have destroyed everyone, stiverne and povetkin are next....
                  Do you understand now how this affects their careers when it comes to hall of fame, and legacy

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                    #19
                    well Im certainly not going to get into taking apart Marciano's ATG HW resume.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Trapsetter View Post
                      Really? Like who then marciano fought everyone
                      Wasn't alive back then, so can't give you, but i do know it was tougher to get noticed if you werent with the mob..

                      Even the great SRR never fought any of the black murder's row guys.. Saw a documentry on it and it explained that if you were a draw like marciano or SRR you would get protected from lesser known but very good fighters...

                      Not trying to say Marciano is a bum but the 50's were loaded with great fighters and boxing was still a main stream sport and you are telling me the only legit guys were faded 40 year old guys..In the entire world!!
                      Come on man, any boxing historian like bert sugar could have probably named off like 20 guys that were deserving but didnt get a chance cuz they didnt have the right connections..
                      My grandpa liked him but always said the he wouldnt be undefeated champ if he fought in the 60's and 70's

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