Comments Thread For: Canelo's Trainer Explains Mayweather Catch-Weight Deal

[sampsonsimpson]

They're contesting for the lineal/genuine title at 154. How is a a CW OK? I mean, the winner will be The Man at super welter, but there's a doubt whether the guy is willing to face any challengers above 152. Aren't you a historian? Give me some precedents, preferably not shameful like DLH at MW

Chavez vs Whitaker (two of the biggest names in the sport at the time I believe) fought at 145lbs for the 147lbs title. But then, yoh already knew that, didn't you? It's all people talk about when the fight is mentioned, right?

I don't like the CW for title fights either. The belts sbould be off the table, but you think sanctioning bodies are going to miss out on fees for a fight of this magnitude?

Also, Mayweather can never mention Pacquiao and catchweights again. He sold himself out by doing something he flamed Pacquiao for doing.

that shut you up pretty quickly

[jtcs1981]

lol at people justifying a catchweight when they've been criticizing Pac for his cw fights. Some of this fans are unbelievable. They will do anything to praise their idol. Hypocrites.

[bravestone]

Not a fan of catchweights for titles. Canelo is 22 though and will lose the weight. He looked great against Trout at 153.

He should pull a Hopkins and come in even lower like Hopkins did with Delahoya. Would be awesome

[BendOver]

You have to wait and see how the fight plays out before casting judgement buddy. Let's take a couple fights where guys had to drop weight as examples. Pac-DLH, Pac-Cotto, Pac-Margarito, and Ward-Dawson. IMO, Pac and Ward defeated those opponents in a manner in which demonstrated to me that at any weight, they would have been way too much for those guys. Pac's speed and combination punching is what killed DLH, Cotto, and Margarito. Those guys not having to cut a couple lbs in training wasn't gonna change that. Ward's skill level, combined with his roughhouse tactics on the inside is what was Dawson's undoing. Dawson's game is skill and speed. He was outgunned from a skill standpoint against Ward. That wouldn't have been any different in a light heavyweight fight. The rough stuff on the inside, Dawson would be out gunned at light heavy too because he's not comfortable inside and never will be. And regardless of weight, he's skill level will never allow him to keep Ward off him.

So when it comes to Floyd-Canelo, let's see how it plays out. If Floyd eeks out a close, somewhat controversal win and it is evident it only happen becuase he took the championship rounds when Canelo was obviously dead tired. Yeah, you'll have an arguement that the catchweight got Floyd over. Even though it will be argued that Canelo has had stamina issues in with or without catchweights. But if Floyd comes out and dominates Canelo from the word GO. And its obvious that Canelo, from a class and skill standpoint isn't on Floyd's level. The catchweight excuse will turn into nothing more than mindless babble from Floyd's haters.

I'm one of your fans now, hit it right on the money...

[NoMoTomatoCans]

Call me crazy but why is Canelo and GBP so anxious to fight Floyd? I think a mega fight against Sergio is actually winnable and would be more comfortable for Canelo weight wise. Then make the Floyd fight later and GBP would have more bargaining power.

[tacoboxer]

They're contesting for the lineal/genuine title at 154. How is a a CW OK? I mean, the winner will be The Man at super welter, but there's a doubt whether the guy is willing to face any challengers above 152. Aren't you a historian? Give me some precedents, preferably not shameful like DLH at MW

One belt at 175 and one belt at 168.......

"On November 7, 1988, Donnie Lalonde fought Sugar Ray Leonard at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, Nevada. It was by far the biggest fight of his career. Lalonde's purse was six million dollars. They fought for Lalonde's WBC Light Heavyweight Championship and the newly created WBC Super Middleweight Championship, which meant that Lalonde had to make 168 lbs. Some were concerned that moving down from the light heavyweight limit of 175 lbs would weaken Lalonde, but he told HBO's Larry Merchant after the fight that he had no trouble making weight, and he felt great on the night of the fight".

[HeroBando]

Chavez vs Whitaker (two of the biggest names in the sport at the time I believe) fought at 145lbs for the 147lbs title. But then, yoh already knew that, didn't you? It's all people talk about when the fight is mentioned, right?

I don't like the CW for title fights either. The belts sbould be off the table, but you think sanctioning bodies are going to miss out on fees for a fight of this magnitude?

Also, Mayweather can never mention Pacquiao and catchweights again. He sold himself out by doing something he flamed Pacquiao for doing.

Of course I knew that, I also knew that was not a welter unification bout. It had one guy coming up in weight, like 99% of the CWs out there.

[HeroBando]

One is a 154 fighter the other is 147 and can carry up in the division because of his skills. Even if Floyd wins to me he is not a JMW because, if he beats Canelo that fight would probably be his last at 154. I give him props for defending the title and taking on Canelo. I also give props to Canelo I think it would have been better for him to wait but, not sure the fight would have happen if he did. This could be a change of the guard. It has to happen at some point.

Your 147 fighter is a 2x and current SWW champ, ranked #1 contender at 154 everywhere

[BendOver]

This a win/win situation for Canelo, he will lose the fight but against the best boxer on the planet and then will try to avoid his mandatories, Lara, Molina etc... until another big name comes out, he will be going to school soon and they just banking on Fraud years and Ginger weight, because talent wise there's no comparison.

[HeroBando]

One belt at 175 and one belt at 168.......

"On November 7, 1988, Donnie Lalonde fought Sugar Ray Leonard at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, Nevada. It was by far the biggest fight of his career. Lalonde's purse was six million dollars. They fought for Lalonde's WBC Light Heavyweight Championship and the newly created WBC Super Middleweight Championship, which meant that Lalonde had to make 168 lbs. Some were concerned that moving down from the light heavyweight limit of 175 lbs would weaken Lalonde, but he told HBO's Larry Merchant after the fight that he had no trouble making weight, and he felt great on the night of the fight".

Again someone is scraping the barrel, this time with the ATG worst CW. If you think the comparison is fitting... But this fight wasn't for no genuine belt, just a couple of trinkets. This next fight will determine The Man at 154 (* dont apply if you cant make 152)