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    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    How come you didn't mention all the running Martinez did in this fight?
    It's not called running when the other guy can't get in range without taking punishment. It's like the floyd thing. They can both spend half the time coming forward, but lord forbid they take a step back or circle around trying to find angles. Macklin was supposed to be the aggressor from what I recall, and he didn't really do anything to take it from the champ. Also, Martinez clearly did something right if he had Macklin systematically broken down and when it was time to close the show, he did it and went home like it was another day at the office.


    How anybody didn't have Martinez dominating that fight is astounding. He's quick, but not quick enough so that you didn't see every single right he threw land...

    Martinez was bored in this fight.

    Also..there ARE lingering questions as to someone's post up above. Alexander lost to Math...Berto already had massive questions about him after the Collazo fight and him being knocked down by Quintana. Martinez under normal circumstances wouldn't be in the top 3 p4p, but by default and nobody being anymore impressive in their weight class, he gets the nod.

    Haters gunna hate though. Martinez could literally go up to heavyweight (as could Floyd), knock out Vitali and Wladimir and some random fan would say "Well the HW division was weak, they need to fight someone legit" or something similar. Give the guy his props and if his spot is undeserved, it will eventually be exposed. Boxing is funny that way.
    Last edited by NearHypnos; 03-18-2012, 12:46 AM.

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      Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
      It's not called running when the other guy can't get in range without taking punishment. It's like the floyd thing. They can both spend half the time coming forward, but lord forbid they take a step back or circle around trying to find angles. Macklin was supposed to be the aggressor from what I recall, and he didn't really do anything to take it from the champ. Also, Martinez clearly did something right if he had Macklin systematically broken down and when it was time to close the show, he did it and went home like it was another day at the office.
      haha, when mayweather does it he's called masterful, when martinez does it its called running.

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        I really hope we don't see Pirog or Quillin against Martinez anytime soon, I don't give either of them much of a chance against his countering style. I think atleast style wise Lee offers the most chance of something interesting in a fight. If Sergo dismantles Andy Lee, then he moves on to Floyd or another top tier 153lb fighter maybe even a clash with Lara would be good if he can get another couple big victorys, a W over Ronald Hearns won't do it though.

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          Originally posted by Ryit View Post
          I really hope we don't see Pirog or Quillin against Martinez anytime soon, I don't give either of them much of a chance against his countering style. I think atleast style wise Lee offers the most chance of something interesting in a fight. If Sergo dismantles Andy Lee, then he moves on to Floyd or another top tier 153lb fighter maybe even a clash with Lara would be good if he can get another couple big victorys, a W over Ronald Hearns won't do it though.
          naw, lee would get demolished. if sergio can't secure a fight with chavez he will probably go down to 154.

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            Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
            You saw Martinez dominating?

            I'm not hyping Macklin as even a good fighter. I am saying that he's an awkward, oafish type fighter that was fighting tooth and nail with Martinez until he started gassing in round 9.

            We will just have to agree to disagree.

            My point is simply that Martinez isn't as good as some think to justify a #3 ranking on a P4P list.

            Macklin has little to NO technique. He isn't fast, strong or coordinated. It was his approach to the fight that kept him in it, and he abandoned that approach once he starting breathing heavy.

            If this had been Alexander, Berto or Bradley having this done to them by someone like Mickey Ward or Paulie Malignaggi, there would be lingering unanswered questions about them because a P4P#3 shouldn't be able to be dragged into deep waters by someone of Macklin's talent.

            If you seriously saw this as a dominating performance for Martinez then the bar has been lowered to such a degree that things just don't make sense.

            Adrien Broner, and up and coming kid has a tough fight against Ponce de Leon and people are saying that the kid is all hype.

            P4P#3 Sergio Martinez looks like a frustrated old man against Macklin and it was a dominating performance?

            Wow.

            World class boxers will watch what Macklin did to stay in the fight and analyze it, revamp it and do it much better. The only adjusting Martinez did in this fight was outlast Macklin until Macklin became so tired that he wasn't moving his head, working behind the jab or throwing the left hook like McGirt was begging him to.

            A tired fighter who gave all he had in the first 9 rounds isn't going to finish a 12 round fight. With each round we saw Macklin's workrate diminish. McGirt kept asking for head movement and jabs ... and when Martinez kept throwing and landing his left, McGirt correctly asked for Matt to throw left hooks.

            Macklin just didn't have any steam left. I know for sure it wasn't Martinez' skill that beat Macklin.

            you seem biased to some degree....bc I barely saw macklin land anything tonight save a single shot here & there...macklin looked battered & couldn't make it to the end of the 12th...serg looked like he had a photo shoot in 15 min & was barely breathing hard or sweaty. Those aren't the marks of a war or an even fight to me. Rds get scored based on the damage done by one fighter to the other. If not skill...then wut? If that's the case all a guy would have to do is be in shape to finish guys....I'm not sure wut ur seeing. Maklin coulda had enough steam for 15 rds....he wasn't doing any damage to SM.

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              Originally posted by LAFIRPO View Post
              haha, when mayweather does it he's called masterful, when martinez does it its called running.
              I respectfully disagree on the Martinez front. We'll have to agree to disagree. One man's running is another man's tactics.

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                Originally posted by LAFIRPO View Post
                naw, lee would get demolished. if sergio can't secure a fight with chavez he will probably go down to 154.
                I agree that it's definately possible that Lee gets demolished with his sometimes absent head movement but I think at this point a demolishing of Lee is just as impressive as a demolishing of Geale, or Pirog, or Sturm, to me atleast. With Floyd going away and no other big names at 153 really, he has to impressively dismantle somebody with some name value before he can get that Floyd fight and it should be Lee.

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                  another good win by Sergio especially for stoping his opponent and not by getting a bull**** decision like his garage nemesis paul Williams!! bring on Chavez even though he'll run like a Olympic marathon runner...

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                    Boy, Martinez is getting the same treatment Donaire got after his last fight. And coincidentally both were also coming of fights where the opponent went full defense mode. (Narvaiz, Barker)

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                      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
                      Boy, Martinez is getting the same treatment Donaire got after his last fight. And coincidentally both were also coming of fights where the opponent went full defense mode. (Narvaiz, Barker)
                      To be fair..Narvaiz DID escape from Willy Wanka's factory to fight Donaire. The champs gets put in a bad spot when his challenger...doesnt want to challenge.

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