Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez Digs Down To Stop, Batter Matt Macklin

[Ryit]

Few quick thoughts.

Macklin was definately confusing Martinez stylistically after the 2nd round or so, and I gave him two rounds maybe. The knockdown on Sergio was BS for sure but it is what it is, atleast the refferees haven't been as awful as the judges.

The judging was insane, after th 10-7 round how could you EVER call that a draw I mean, it's to the point where like my heart sinks everytime a fight goes to a decision waiting to see these horrible scores all the damn time in boxing, judging has been so damn terrible lately it's absurd.

Sergio adjusted after the first half of the fight, took it to him, he'd been landing much harder and more accurate all night and the accumulation combined with a late rally and Macklin gassing got the KO, I was still impressed by Sergio, would've liked more aggression but a knockout is a knockout.

Speaking of knockouts, OMG that ring girls ass was insane, somebody needs to gif this and find a name IMMEDIATELY.

And we also need to see Martinez vs Lee, I honestly would rather see that than Floyd right now, that fight seems to me like a boring mashup of counterpunchers, would be technically very nice but boring on screen IMO. Lee has decent defense and throws enough with a great reach, he'd have to get Sergio inside to be hurt and it could definately be a nice fight.

[mistermartin]

Spinks is a wholly different animal than Martinez. Spinks is a slick boxer and very sound technically. Martinez is RJJ Jr.-lite--no technique, pure athleticism. Completely different styles. I thought Spinks won that fight, too, but I don't think he's in any way comparable as a match with Martinez. I also think Taylor was already on the decline then. He was frozen up and afraid to throw punches throughout that fight, which was painful to watch.

You do realize ur saying a man who is 37 yrs old is pure athleticism right?? You look at all of his last 7 fights he's emploed a diff tactic w/ each opp...he outjabbed dzinzurich...out boxed pavlik...outworked & outslugged pwill...outpunched barker macklin....Out boxed & outpunched cintron...all of those fighters were vaarious sizes & lengths & styles....& sergio out gamplanned..worked & athleticized ANNNND adjusted to them all. Not to mention he took pavlik & williams short notice...wasn't even prepping for those fights...dude is legit.

HBO wants to ride donaire but he's left hook happy & if u don't fight ****** he can't wear u down & stop u...not to mention he's not as strong as he goes up in weight. Serg is beasting 2 wt classes. He was 3 lbs under @ the weigh-in. If the kirlkland fight ever gets made kirkland gets stopped inside of 6 rds....

[pinchewey]

Love how the hbo crew was trashing martinez and when he got better they jumped on the wagon real quick,good fight

[radioraheem]

[QUOTE=hillbilly;11902138]

I think it was before this fight was even made. Martinez said he offered Floyd 80% of the share.

Martinez's speed will give Floyd problems. I think this would be a great fight. Martinez also has way more pop than Floyd. You can knock out top 5 Middleweights without more power than Floyd who doesn't even knockout welterweights. Floyd's an awesome tactician though. He'd try to turn the fight into a boring, tactical match, counterpunching and hitting with the lead right. I think the fight will likely be an awesome chess match. I'd probably favor Martinez because of his size and power and the fact that he's pretty close in speed to Mayweather. I'd much rather see this fight than Pacquiao Mayweather. Pacquiao couldn't get in the ring with Martinez. Martinez would KO him.

Martinez's speed would not give Floyd problems. Floyd has fought faster opponents. And Martinez, with his awkward, wild, and Hamed-like style, would get picked apart by Floyd like taking candy away from a baby. You think Martinez will be able to do that hands down nonsense with Floyd? Think again. Despite this though, I do agree that Martinez would have a great size advantage.

And because he would have such a great size advantage -- that is the very reason why this fight will never happen with either Floyd or Pacquaio. Martinez is too big for both of them.

I think Martinez and Pacquaio would've been interesting since they both have very similar wild a$$ styles. Throwing punches wildly from any angle, no matter how bad it is.

[intoccabile]

Spinks is a wholly different animal than Martinez. Spinks is a slick boxer and very sound technically. Martinez is RJJ Jr.-lite--no technique, pure athleticism. Completely different styles. I thought Spinks won that fight, too, but I don't think he's in any way comparable as a match with Martinez. I also think Taylor was already on the decline then. He was frozen up and afraid to throw punches throughout that fight, which was painful to watch.

On the decline? His career was just starting. he just finished his 2 fights with hopkins and got the Draw with winky.

He was afraid to throw because Spinks gave him different looks. thats what happens.

[intoccabile]

Few quick thoughts.

Macklin was definately confusing Martinez stylistically after the 2nd round or so, and I gave him two rounds maybe. The knockdown on Sergio was BS for sure but it is what it is, atleast the refferees haven't been as awful as the judges.

The judging was insane, after th 10-7 round how could you EVER call that a draw I mean, it's to the point where like my heart sinks everytime a fight goes to a decision waiting to see these horrible scores all the damn time in boxing, judging has been so damn terrible lately it's absurd.

Sergio adjusted after the first half of the fight, took it to him, he'd been landing much harder and more accurate all night and the accumulation combined with a late rally and Macklin gassing got the KO, I was still impressed by Sergio, would've liked more aggression but a knockout is a knockout.

Speaking of knockouts, OMG that ring girls ass was insane, somebody needs to gif this and find a name IMMEDIATELY.

And we also need to see Martinez vs Lee, I honestly would rather see that than Floyd right now, that fight seems to me like a boring mashup of counterpunchers, would be technically very nice but boring on screen IMO. Lee has decent defense and throws enough with a great reach, he'd have to get Sergio inside to be hurt and it could definately be a nice fight.

What? After that Mcewan fight I don't ever want to see Lee i nthe ring with Sergio.

[chiguy91]

what a great fight. macklin and mcgirt came to win and showed a good gameplan from the beginning. they really tested martinez. but he came back and proved why he's a champ. true athleticism in closing the show in the 11th round in a tough fight. nothing but respect to macklin for trying and really putting up a tough fight, he impressed for sure. they said kellerman had donaire as 3 and martinez as 4 in p4p ranks. i disagree, martinez has true talent in finding a way beat and eventually break down his opponent into a stoppage when the going gets tough and things aren't looking good. donaire just blames his opponent. i'm a huge fan of his but i think if he was better than martinez p4p wise than he'd be able to do what martinez was able to do in his last 3 fights. p4p is all talk and opinionated though, so i really won't give much thought than this comment.
only thing bad i have to say about tonight is the commentating and scoring. harold lederman, emmanuel steward, and larry merchant are ******s. complete biased commentating. really wish we'd see more jones and kellerman, these older guys need to go. i didn't really see what mayweather was talking about at first, but now i understand where he's coming from. they need to get rid of him and steward as commentators. and if they can, lederman as well. his daughter is moron as well. @ HBO.

[LAFIRPO]

[QUOTE=radioraheem;11902206]

Martinez's speed would not give Floyd problems. Floyd has fought faster opponents. And Martinez, with his awkward, wild, and Hamed-like style, would get picked apart by Floyd like taking candy away from a baby. You think Martinez will be able to do that hands down nonsense with Floyd? Think again. Despite this though, I do agree that Martinez would have a great size advantage.

And because he would have such a great size advantage -- that is the very reason why this fight will never happen with either Floyd or Pacquaio. Martinez is too big for both of them.

I think Martinez and Pacquaio would've been interesting since they both have very similar wild a$$ styles. Throwing punches wildly from any angle, no matter how bad it is.

its pointless to talk about a fight that will probably never happen. but i think if those two ever do fight it will be a boring fight. it would be two guys tryin to outsmart each other.

[JKidd2624]

Almost a carbon copy to what happened with Sergio and the Pavlik fight. A fluke knock down called against, and the switch gets flipped. From then on, it was Macklin on the receiving end of some hellacious lefts that finally broke down the jaw and broke him down completely. The tactical change of throwing the left off target and letting Macklin lean into it was masterful. Lots of people, justifiably, give hell to Buddy McGirt for stopping fights at the first sign of trouble, but tonight was a great stoppage. No point in sending Macklin out there to literally have the slaughter finished. Macklin deserves some credit for coming out and boxing very effectively and making it a hell of a fight for Martinez. But in the end, he just couldn't prove good enough to beat the champ.

[NearHypnos]

Martinez has venom in that right "jab" if you can call it that cuz it comes out as hard as a conventional fighter's straight. The HBO crew was ignoring how Martinez literally had his distance down from the very first round and landing it at will over Macklin's jab. Martinez was also landing that left the entire time, just not to the head. Martinez was jabbing away when he was going back, and landing the straight when hew as coming forward he was in complete control almost the entire fight. Was Martinez even out of breath at the end of the fight? He landed almost everything he wanted. He started putting more on the right jab later on and Macklin would completely lose his footing from it and have to reset. Macklin did surprisingly well, but Martinez controlled throughout. HBO really doesn't like Martinez, that guy has been trying to get props for a long time now. Martinez DEFINITELY gets robbed if JCC jr comes in at 180+ again and is able to tank Martinez's hits til a decision. And if JCC Jr doesnt even have to drug test..good luck, Sergio, facing a guy with a 20 pound weight difference and the most crooked promoter known to man who has ALSO been caught buying off officials in the 90s I believe? Jcc Jr, physically..can give Martinez a lot of problems. That is a LOT of weight to overcome at that particular weight class.


Also, Martinez seemed like he trimmed some muscle down or is it just me? He seemed thinner, even his legs seemed skinny. I think it's clear he has something planned for 154. I bet he has his eye on mayweather-cotto winner. I don't think Floyd is too small for martinez.

Also, someone mentioned that Martinez's speed would give Floyd problems but I disagree, it's his sense of timing and willingness/ability to go through different game plans that is impressive imo.

Floyd is much better skilled, but for a guy that WILL have a size advantage facing a hard and quick/slick southpaw, it will cause problems. It's the combination of speed, size and style, not just the speed. Martinez is great at going around the guard and he'd for sure (imo) be a better challenge to Floyd than Pac to floyd. Pac is going to do the same thing throughout that fight, weather it works or not. If it doesn't work, he's done..if Martinez has things not go his way, he tries different approaches, guarding, angles, aggression, etc. Martinez is very resourceful.