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Why isn't Pac fighting Bradley at his strongest/most proven weight (140)?

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    #21
    this dont make sense, its just 7 lbs n if anything its gonna help bradley, maybe he will have more power at this weight n take a better punch. n this aint even the same catch weight bullcrap manny is doing he is fighting at 47 this time, so i dont know wht u talkin bout n im not takin either side cuz bradley looks like the mask, n manny thinks he bruce lee, n to be honest i hope tim (where the fuc is yo stache??) bradley throws a monkey wrench in the whole mayweather pacquiao fight cuz i really dont give a fuc about tht s h i t anymore,

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      #22
      Originally posted by punchville View Post
      with the bold, you just compared a very similar scenenario with cotto and bradley...what has cotto done at 154?...nothing much like bradley has at 147...so why do you think cotto is comfortable at 154 but not bradley at 47?..they both said they are comfortable at that..

      floyd also fought hatton at his so called worse weight and he was p4p king then...so wtf?..

      lol at worse weight...bradley can come in at 140 if he wants at the weight in and outweigh pac at fight night...(like he always does at 40)...so how is that putting him at a disadvantage?...
      I'm really not trying to turn this into a Mayweather-Pac comparison. But since you asked, Cotto has done more at 154 than Bradley at 147.

      If you really want to know, neither Cotto or Bradley have done much at their respected weights. But if I had to choose one, I would think that Cotto has fought tougher opposition at 154 than Bradley's sole 1 fight claim to fame at 147.

      I'm just noticing a trend here with Pac. Is that wrong to think?

      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
      Bradley applied his name to the contract,and is confident in the win,it's time for him to show up...Damn the excuses...
      Bradley would've fought Pac at 160 if he had too. Fact of the matter is Bradley is trying to get paid and claim his stance in boxing. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying the same point could've been proven at 140.

      No need to try to beat Bradley before he even steps in the ring, when you can accomplish just that in the ring.

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        #23
        a thread to discredits pacs fight ahead of time

        good job fl0mo

        if floyd acts and demands crazy demands ud go out and say he has the right to

        but then if the p4p #1 does the same thing youd cry like a little girl with a sore possy

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          #24
          Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
          I hear Pac can barely make 147 because he's so small, so why doesn't he fight Bradley at 140, which would be both fighters strongest weight?

          It just seems like Pac is trying to put Bradley at a disadvantage before they even step in the ring. I've heard other posters say that Pac tries to do this, but I've never really gave it much attention.

          But when it comes to Bradley, I just don't see why Pac feels the need to bring him up in weight when that would obviously put Bradley at a disadvantage before they even enter the ring.

          Bradley has had 1 fight at 147 against Abregu, which ended up being at UD. Nothing to scream and shout about.

          I understand this is a fight and the whole object is to beat your opponent, but I don't think Pac has to win this way. IMO, he can beat Bradley at 140, but why try to beat him this way before the fight even starts. It's just not necessary.
          because rightnow "pac is pac" and "bradley is bradley" is the natural way the lesser accomplished fighter to step up and challenge the more accomplished fighter.
          you dont know about this law????

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            #25
            Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
            Bradley looked better at his 147lb debut then Hatton did...
            Collazo was a decent fighter a lot better than Abregu.
            Originally posted by $ j-210 $ View Post
            lol the weight actually benefits bradley....he's the one who walks around in the 160s
            Pacquiao fans don't understand this logic. When i tried to explain this to them about Hatton who used to weigh 170+ it just went over their heads.
            Last edited by Jam Jars; 03-13-2012, 10:18 PM.

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              #26
              Luis Collazo is about 4 levels above Luis Abregu, so dead that comparison and Bradley did not look impressive considering the level of the guy he was facing.

              Hatton did not ask for a catch weight and he did not ask for 140, he was content to fight at 147 so he could keep his title at 140 if he fell short, which is exactly what happened.

              7 pounds shouldn't be a big deal, people ***** about all the weight classes then complain when a dude moves up 1 class~ if we are going by the original classes 140 and 147 would be the same class of fighter~.

              Is Manny some monster of a welter~ no he isn't he is of similar size to Bradley so it really doesn't mattter where they fight at.

              It is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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                #27
                Originally posted by $ j-210 $ View Post
                lol the weight actually benefits bradley....he's the one who walks around in the 160s
                Originally posted by Shiranui View Post
                Actually I think fighting at 147 favors Bradley, as he would have to cut more to make 140 than Pacquiao. Pac has basically decided he doesn't want to ever cut any weight again though.
                Originally posted by wylout View Post
                this dont make sense, its just 7 lbs n if anything its gonna help bradley, maybe he will have more power at this weight n take a better punch. n this aint even the same catch weight bullcrap manny is doing he is fighting at 47 this time, so i dont know wht u talkin bout n im not takin either side cuz bradley looks like the mask, n manny thinks he bruce lee, n to be honest i hope tim (where the fuc is yo stache??) bradley throws a monkey wrench in the whole mayweather pacquiao fight cuz i really dont give a fuc about tht s h i t anymore,


                140 and 147 are separated for a reason.

                If the 7 pounds didn't matter then why not consolidate 140 and 147 into one weight class?

                That's like telling Hatton he doesn't know what he's talking about when he says he doesn't feel right at that weight. Hatton cut from 190 lbs, but that doesn't mean that stopping at 147 would benefit him more than stopping at 140.

                If Bradley was knocking guys dead at 147, I would think otherwise. But Bradley hasn't done anything at 147 to warrant at title shot. Regardless of what Bradley did at 140, he hasn't done it at 147 and that's a fact.

                Don't get me wrong, I'm no personal trainer, it just seems like Pac is trying to win outside rather inside the ring.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                  140 and 147 are separated for a reason.

                  If the 7 pounds didn't matter then why not consolidate 140 and 147 into one weight class?

                  That's like telling Hatton he doesn't know what he's talking about when he says he doesn't feel right at that weight. Hatton cut from 190 lbs, but that doesn't mean that stopping at 147 would benefit him more than stopping at 140.

                  If Bradley was knocking guys dead at 147, I would think otherwise. But Bradley hasn't done anything at 147 to warrant at title shot. Regardless of what Bradley did at 140, he hasn't done it at 147 and that's a fact.

                  Don't get me wrong, I'm no personal trainer, it just seems like Pac is trying to win outside rather inside the ring.
                  It's just easier for them to make 147 they don't have to sweat down to 140 and means he'll be stronger for the fight. Pacquiao was weighing 143+ when he was at 130.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                    I'm really not trying to turn this into a Mayweather-Pac comparison. But since you asked, Cotto has done more at 154 than Bradley at 147.

                    If you really want to know, neither Cotto or Bradley have done much at their respected weights. But if I had to choose one, I would think that Cotto has fought tougher opposition at 154 than Bradley's sole 1 fight claim to fame at 147.

                    I'm just noticing a trend here with Pac. Is that wrong to think?



                    Bradley would've fought Pac at 160 if he had too. Fact of the matter is Bradley is trying to get paid and claim his stance in boxing. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying the same point could've been proven at 140.

                    No need to try to beat Bradley before he even steps in the ring, when you can accomplish just that in the ring.
                    lol, ofcourse youre not, you brought floyd first then it backfired.....and ofcourse you pick cotto to had fought tougher oppositon at 54 than bardley at 47, not doing so would conflict with your agenda....

                    and whats with the woulda coulda shoulda?...

                    like i said bradley can come in at 140 if he wants..

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                      #30
                      Who said both will hit 147?

                      Bradley becomes a Vegan to make 140, and in the amateurs he was at 153 or something.

                      That being said, it isn't his best weight that we know of, but PAC doesn't hit 147 himself and Bradley doesn't need to hit it either. PAC had not touched any of his weights since 130/135 if I recall, he is always slightly under.

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