Floyd by decision against anybody in history

[Mr.0pal]

You show great faith, although really silly, to enthuse so much over a professional fighter. Just silly. But on the same line, if you like, although unfortunately it can't happen, if a Time Machine were available, I would be happy to bet any money you might be likely to have for the next 5 years, on either Oscar or Mosley in their prime to beat any version of Mayweather. Trinidad, once a very good boxer with sound technique, would mow him down.

And Duran and Leonard would have killed him, in their divisions, and Tommy Hearns would have destroyed him, as well as lightweight Benny Leonard, who made a practice of de-smarting "smarties" in the ring, unbeaten as lightweight champion in a shark infested world for over 6 years and could have gone undefeated for much longer if he hadn't retired, and 6 years later come back as a welter. Even then, he won about 20 or so fights and lost only his last one, aged 37 against Welter Champ Jimmy McLarnin. And there are certainly many more, but I've said enough. Mayweaher is good, no doubt, but highly overrated, mostly by himself, which rubbed off on his silly fanatics.

By the way, i recently saw, for the very first time, a RECENT photo of Mayweather Senior sparring, and it's immediately clear where his son got his "shoulder roll" from. Like 2 peas in a pod, except that his father was more adventurous and wasn't as careful inhis matchups as his son has been.

Just my opinion.

LOL... uhh.. thanks

[Mr.0pal]

theres only one person, at one point in time who i would bet on against floyd.


paul spadafora at 135 would have been the best chance we had at seeing floyd lose. spaddy has the only style that can beat floyd, and at 135 in pauls prime i think he could do it. im not saying its a lock he would win, but he is the only one i would feel had a good enough shot at it to bet on him. slick southpaw with the type of walk the ring movement spaddy had is the only shot you have at beating floyd

And you'd bet a years salary on it? Remember... that's a full year where you would be totally broke. That's a brave bet.

[-Kev-]

I guess Pacquiao doesn't beat any one in history since he lost to Singsurat and Torrecampo 10 years ago by TKO in the early rounds. Since Floyd can't beat any of the ATG's because he fought a close fight with Castillo 10 years ago.

[raf727]

And you'd bet a years salary on it? Remember... that's a full year where you would be totally broke. That's a brave bet.

man this is where boxing gets me, people no matter what they say pick on bias. i firmly believe in my heart of hearts brother, that spaddy could have outboxed just about anyone at 135. i truly do believe that paul would have beat floyd had they fought at 135, i think it would have been a tough tactical matchup for both guys, but paul will dig his head in floyds chest and keep his heartrate up, spin him the whole fight, paul could walk the ring like nobodies business. hall of fame trainer jesse reid said the exact same thing, even though i dont like reid he knows boxing

id have to say yea, ill throw down a years salary. but this is all good and well since i dont have a job Lol but it would depend on my situation in life, if i got money in the bank, yea id throw a years salary down, but im not a gambler so i wont bet money i cant afford to lose.

[Mr.0pal]

man this is where boxing gets me, people no matter what they say pick on bias. i firmly believe in my heart of hearts brother, that spaddy could have outboxed just about anyone at 135. i truly do believe that paul would have beat floyd had they fought at 135, i think it would have been a tough tactical matchup for both guys, but paul will dig his head in floyds chest and keep his heartrate up, spin him the whole fight, paul could walk the ring like nobodies business. hall of fame trainer jesse reid said the exact same thing, even though i dont like reid he knows boxing

id have to say yea, ill throw down a years salary. but this is all good and well since i dont have a job Lol but it would depend on my situation in life, if i got money in the bank, yea id throw a years salary down, but im not a gambler so i wont bet money i cant afford to lose.

alright.....

[raf727]

alright.....

and understand im not some ******* talking ****, and i honestly believe floyd is the p4p number 1 right now and i dont even like the guy, he is a phenomal boxer and one of the greatest i have ever seen lace em up(im young though bear in mind i didnt see the SRL's and marvin haglers growing up). even if you dont like him you have to respect the mans skills, hes the one guy i dont think its reaching to make threads like this about, he no doubt has ATG skills in every aspect.

but you cant rate boxers on potentialities and the fact remains that he has not stepped into the ring with guys like SRL or duran. the guy can outbox pretty much anyone, but he had a close fight with JLC so its obvious he has flaws. spaddys style is floyds kryptonite, floyd is a control freak in the ring and spaddy would be turning him all night. floyd has trouble with fighters he cannot control their movement, a guy like pac? **** floyd would probably KO him in the middle rounds, its bull and the matador classic ****.

but a guy who would dig his head in floyds chest, spin him around all night, keep his heartrate up real high, dig to the body, and dont forget spaddy is a pretty ****ing elusive guy one opponent of his i dont remember who only hit him 8% overall in the fight so hes as slick as they come too. this is the only guy i think, maybe even sweet pea now that im thinking about it, that i would even feel comfortable thinking about betting on


but yea now that i think about it, i think sweet pea beats floyd

[Mr.0pal]

and understand im not some ******* talking ****, and i honestly believe floyd is the p4p number 1 right now and i dont even like the guy, he is a phenomal boxer and one of the greatest i have ever seen lace em up(im young though bear in mind i didnt see the SRL's and marvin haglers growing up). even if you dont like him you have to respect the mans skills, hes the one guy i dont think its reaching to make threads like this about, he no doubt has ATG skills in every aspect.

but you cant rate boxers on potentialities and the fact remains that he has not stepped into the ring with guys like SRL or duran. the guy can outbox pretty much anyone, but he had a close fight with JLC so its obvious he has flaws. spaddys style is floyds kryptonite, floyd is a control freak in the ring and spaddy would be turning him all night. floyd has trouble with fighters he cannot control their movement, a guy like pac? **** floyd would probably KO him in the middle rounds, its bull and the matador classic ****.

but a guy who would dig his head in floyds chest, spin him around all night, keep his heartrate up real high, dig to the body, and dont forget spaddy is a pretty ****ing elusive guy one opponent of his i dont remember who only hit him 8% overall in the fight so hes as slick as they come too. this is the only guy i think, maybe even sweet pea now that im thinking about it, that i would even feel comfortable thinking about betting on


but yea now that i think about it, i think sweet pea beats floyd

If that's what you believe then I'm not going to ridicule you for it. I just personally think it's a brave move to bet on Spadafora. When people talk about Floyd's kyrptonite or weaknesses I don't pay it much attention because Floyd has not shown any glaring weaknesses. I just take it as a good hunch and everybody's entitled to see the fight going down how they see it.

[raf727]

If that's what you believe then I'm not going to ridicule you for it. I just personally think it's a brave move to bet on Spadafora. When people talk about Floyd's kyrptonite or weaknesses I don't pay it much attention because Floyd has not shown any glaring weaknesses. I just take it as a good hunch and everybody's entitled to see the fight going down how they see it.

no doubt man, and when i say 'krpytonite' i dont mean it like a superman style where he wouldnt be effective at all i just think that is the best style that could POSSIBLY beat floyd. its evident that floyd has a ridiculous ring iq, and he can make adjustments like no other in the game right now.

i think floyds style now is better than his style at the lighter weights and he just keeps improving, plus he showed what his beard is really made of when he took a great shot from shane who is one of the hardest punchers p4p. i think right now he would beat anybody, but i think when they were both at 135 spaddy had his number. floyd now is more economical with his movement, his footwork looks lazier but is just more economic.

[ADP02]

A lot of people talk a bunch of ish about how this guy would have beat Floyd or that guy. Personally, I highly doubt that these same people, behind closed doors, would put a large amount of money where their mouth is.

I don't care who you mention at 147, 140, 135 or 130 (which ever version of Floyd we're dealing with), if I had a full years income on the line the safest bet I'd chose is Floyd by decision against any fighter in history.

So if you make $40k/yr and you bet against Floyd then you'd work a full year with no pay. If Floyd wins you get a $40,000 check. If you ask me, Floyd is the safest bet against anybody.

Who else would you bet your money on and why? You HAVE to bet on somebody.

Safest bet?

To start off, a safe beat usually means that the one who you bet on will be heavily favored. Secondly, the one who you expect to lose has little to no chance of beating the "safe bet" .... BUT I can think of quite a few fighters that would make your bet NOT safe!

[Mr.0pal]

Safest bet?

To start off, a safe beat usually means that the one who you bet on will be heavily favored. Secondly, the one who you expect to lose has little to no chance of beating the "safe bet" .... BUT I can think of quite a few fighters that would make your bet NOT safe!

To start off, a safe beat usually means that the one who you bet on will be heavily favored.

I said "safest".... meaning the safer of the two options. No matter if it's 2 to 1 or whatever. Vegas odds don't concern me. They're proven wrong regularly. Don't go to extremes or turn this into a drama movie. If you would bet on a certain fighter or fighters then just name them.