Floyd by decision against anybody in history

[Mr.0pal]

So what's the excuse when avid Mayweather fan's say those things?

I don't understand what you're asking.

[Mr.0pal]

Whoever said the TS is the definition of a ***** is exactly right. Floyd is one of the best boxers I've ever witnessed in action and truly is a jack of all trades but I'd give him little to no chance against a prime Hearns at 147. My reasons are that Hearns was too tall and had an incredibly large reach, add that to the fact that Hearns was a lot younger at welterweight than Floyd is now.

Sugar ray Robinson would put one hell of a hurting on Floyd. It would be the Castillo fight but worse. Against the smaller guys and definitely against the slower guys I'd bet everything on Floyd but against true ATG welterweights I'm not sure Floyd can beat them although he definitely can hang with them.

Little chance is a realistic opinion. No chance? That's unrealistic. Hearns was not unbeatable. No fighter is unbeatable. To say that it's impossible for Floyd to beat Hearns would make you a Hearmo (meaning that you are to Hearns what a ***** is to Floyd).

Anyways.... Thanks for sharing your opinion. Once again..... I would trust my money on Floyd against any of those fighters more than I would trust my money on those fighters against Floyd.

[Mr.0pal]

Put it like this, I would never bet AGAINST Mayweather


BUT I would predict Hearns to win. Would I put money up for hearns, like I said no...

This is realistic. People are interpreting the thread to be some type of Floyd fanatic moment. If I had to bet 100k on Floyd to beat Hearns I would be scared shytless.... on the edge of a heart attack. But if I had to place a huge bet I'd trust Floyd with my money over Hearns before I'd trust Hearns over Floyd.

I don't think people want to admit that this is not a ridiculous stance. People would not be as appalled if I said Whitaker or somebody else.... but because it's Floyd people get their panties in a knot because they see Floyd as a classless money flashing azzh0le with no charisma. lol. I could be wrong in some cases but I don't think in all.

[Champ Is Here]

This is realistic. People are interpreting the thread to be some type of Floyd fanatic moment. If I had to bet 100k on Floyd to beat Hearns I would be scared shytless.... on the edge of a heart attack. But if I had to place a huge bet I'd trust Floyd with my money over Hearns before I'd trust Hearns over Floyd.

I don't think people want to admit that this is not a ridiculous stance. People would not be as appalled if I said Whitaker or somebody else.... but because it's Floyd people get their panties in a knot because they see Floyd as a classless money flashing azzh0le with no charisma. lol. I could be wrong in some cases but I don't think in all.

Fair enough

[djtmal]

I was mainly referencing your comments regarding Hatton. Hatton isn't able to do anything with Mayweather regardless of the weight. I respect your argument for Norris and agree with you that he was a beast at his best. Mayweather hasn't faced anyone as good at 47 as Norris was at his best. Having said that though, your prediction that he would stop Mayweather isn't really logical. Not only is Mayweather a defensive wizard, he's proven that he can take a punch. Mayweather has never been stopped or come close to being stopped. I don't see what that prediction can be based on other than heart, and what you'd hope would happen.

Again, I still don't think that people realize that we have yet to see the best of Mayweather. He's never been truly tested. Those fighters of the past brought out the best in each other. Mayweather doesn't really have anyone on his level. People act as if it's blasphemous to think that he could have beaten Leonard simply because Leonard defeated stiffer competition, and to me that reasoning holds no weight. Don't try and make everything about the competition, analyze each fighter skill for skill.

fmj can take A punch, but can he take norris' heat all night?...norris wouldn't land just one punch...he was a combination puncher with serious pop...natural big welterweight at that...fmj would have to be at his shoulder rollin' best

[Porter's Dad]

I would favour Hearns by 80-20.

Leonard - 60-40.

Whitaker - 50/50. Maybe lean towards Pea but not with much conviction.

Duran @ Lightweight - 50/50. If I had a gun to my head, I'd go with Floyd.

[Dat]

You're right. Floyd wouldn't look so amazing in a strong era.

I agree. Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns would toy with Floyd at 147. Duran would knock out Floyd at 135 or 140.

[raf727]

theres only one person, at one point in time who i would bet on against floyd.


paul spadafora at 135 would have been the best chance we had at seeing floyd lose. spaddy has the only style that can beat floyd, and at 135 in pauls prime i think he could do it. im not saying its a lock he would win, but he is the only one i would feel had a good enough shot at it to bet on him. slick southpaw with the type of walk the ring movement spaddy had is the only shot you have at beating floyd

[edgarg]

A lot of people talk a bunch of ish about how this guy would have beat Floyd or that guy. Personally, I highly doubt that these same people, behind closed doors, would put a large amount of money where their mouth is.

I don't care who you mention at 147, 140, 135 or 130 (which ever version of Floyd we're dealing with), if I had a full years income on the line the safest bet I'd chose is Floyd by decision against any fighter in history.

So if you make $40k/yr and you bet against Floyd then you'd work a full year with no pay. If Floyd wins you get a $40,000 check. If you ask me, Floyd is the safest bet against anybody.

Who else would you bet your money on and why? You HAVE to bet on somebody.

You show great faith, although really silly, to enthuse so much over a professional fighter. Just silly. But on the same line, if you like, although unfortunately it can't happen, if a Time Machine were available, I would be happy to bet any money you might be likely to have for the next 5 years, on either Oscar or Mosley in their prime to beat any version of Mayweather. Trinidad, once a very good boxer with sound technique, would mow him down.

And Duran and Leonard would have killed him, in their divisions, and Tommy Hearns would have destroyed him, as well as lightweight Benny Leonard, who made a practice of de-smarting "smarties" in the ring, unbeaten as lightweight champion in a shark infested world for over 6 years and could have gone undefeated for much longer if he hadn't retired, and 6 years later come back as a welter. Even then, he won about 20 or so fights and lost only his last one, aged 37 against Welter Champ Jimmy McLarnin. And there are certainly many more, but I've said enough. Mayweaher is good, no doubt, but highly overrated, mostly by himself, which rubbed off on his silly fanatics.

By the way, i recently saw, for the very first time, a RECENT photo of Mayweather Senior sparring, and it's immediately clear where his son got his "shoulder roll" from. Like 2 peas in a pod, except that his father was more adventurous and wasn't as careful inhis matchups as his son has been.

Just my opinion.

[edgarg]

people don't relies boxing is changing nobody in sugarraysrobenson time fought like floyd boxing evolves just like every thing else because of trainers rules judges money you wont find a fighter that fought like floyd 100 years ago and floyd would give and past fighter problems in 40 years from now people will say none of the current fighters could beat floyd

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