Comments Thread For: Roach: Marquez Had The Win, Let Final Rounds Slip Away

[hitking]

For all those claiming Money and JMM are different fighters, its true. But. the strongest parts of their respective games is the same. That said, I fail to see anything that JMM did to Pac that Mayweather isn't capable of doing.

[Spoon23]

Mayweather may be a counter puncher but they're styles are nothing alike.. not even close.

Marquez is a combo counter puncher, Floyd is a one shot counter puncher. To give pac fits he should know how to pivot and dodge to get a win from pac. I don't see Floyd doing a Marquez on Pac. they have a different style of being defensive.

Floyd shoulder roll won't work on Pac. If he wants to win he has to emulate marquez. Marquez in my book is a master boxer. If it was a draw a win for either Pac or Marquez is definitely debatable it was that close. Just want give props to Marquez he is a genuine master boxer.

This is how I see it. Pac's kryptonite is Marquez. Marquez Kryptonite is Floyd. Floyd Krytonite maybe Pac. (Floyd ain't good with Fast relentless southpaws evident to his past fights with zab, ortiz last round with him were ortis pressured him to the ropes)..

In other words I want to see Floyd Fight Pac. It will be another epic fight.

[Muscles72]

Freddie no sir u are wrong sit down with fighter one on one look him in the eye and ask him what happened...it was your fighter who was giving rounds away all night as for final rds. Marquez won the 12th did u see your man after the fight he had his head down in shame he himself thought he lost and sodid u you and that know nothing ariza.

[Spoon23]

Pacquiao called out Mayweather publicly for May 5th. Did Mayweather or did Ellerbe or Golden Boy call out Pacquiao for May 5th? Ellerbe and Golden Boy doesn't count as Mayweather. Remember, the term "little fella" may exclude Pacquiao. And when I say Mayweather, I do not mean Roger, Jeff, or Sr.

You have to be strict with words with Mayweather, because he loves saying, "I didn't say that."

That's what capped the night for me when Pac brought out Floyd. What now Floyd? Pac looks vulnerable, he looks like he may have slipped. It's time for you to fight Pac. Better say something Floyd..

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

I cant believe these chumps!!! Im losing all respect for team Pac!!! Roach you should be as ashamed as manny looked when they gave him the fight!!!

[Spoon23]

Freddie no sir u are wrong sit down with fighter one on one look him in the eye and ask him what happened...it was your fighter who was giving rounds away all night as for final rds. Marquez won the 12th did u see your man after the fight he had his head down in shame he himself thought he lost and sodid u you and that know nothing ariza.

It was a battle.. I think it was more of he wasn't sure he won.. Pac is a humble guy.. He knew his fate was on the judges it could have gone either way and I won't whine about it if it gone for marquez it is that close..

Watch the fight again.. You can see that pac threw more it could have gone 6-6, 7-5 for pac.. but a win for marquez is a gimme for me. A draw would have been likely.

Pac was the aggressor and had more rounds. It's just that the rounds marquez won he made pac look real bad. That's what we clearly remember after the fight. The clear crisp counters executed to perfection. But thee truth is pac won 7. Marquez had 5 rounds (full of nice highlight shots from him).

That some think marquez won coz the shots we would likely remember are the marquez beautiful counters but as a whole pac was the busier fighter and the one who one more rounds.

[hitking]

Marquez is a combo counter puncher, Floyd is a one shot counter puncher. To give pac fits he should know how to pivot and dodge to get a win from pac. I don't see Floyd doing a Marquez on Pac. they have a different style of being defensive.

Floyd shoulder roll won't work on Pac. If he wants to win he has to emulate marquez. Marquez in my book is a master boxer. If it was a draw a win for either Pac or Marquez is definitely debatable it was that close. Just want give props to Marquez he is a genuine master boxer.

This is how I see it. Pac's kryptonite is Marquez. Marquez Kryptonite is Floyd. Floyd Krytonite maybe Pac. (Floyd ain't good with Fast relentless southpaws evident to his past fights with zab, ortiz last round with him were ortis pressured him to the ropes)..

In other words I want to see Floyd Fight Pac. It will be another epic fight.

Floyd ain't good with fast southpaws? The guy's only competitive fight was against Castillo, who was slow and bullied him. The "problems" Mayweather has with southpaws always lends itself to lopsided wins.

Ortiz didn't land anything on Mayweather, which is why he got frustrated and started using his head. Please stop listening to Jim Lamply and actual watch the fights. Ortiz landed nothing meaningful that entire fight.

[smokey559]

Marquez is a combo counter puncher, Floyd is a one shot counter puncher. To give pac fits he should know how to pivot and dodge to get a win from pac. I don't see Floyd doing a Marquez on Pac. they have a different style of being defensive.

Floyd shoulder roll won't work on Pac. If he wants to win he has to emulate marquez. Marquez in my book is a master boxer. If it was a draw a win for either Pac or Marquez is definitely debatable it was that close. Just want give props to Marquez he is a genuine master boxer.

This is how I see it. Pac's kryptonite is Marquez. Marquez Kryptonite is Floyd. Floyd Krytonite maybe Pac. (Floyd ain't good with Fast relentless southpaws evident to his past fights with zab, ortiz last round with him were ortis pressured him to the ropes)..

In other words I want to see Floyd Fight Pac. It will be another epic fight.

Manny's kryptonite is counter punchers, evident from his loss to Morales and all his fights with jmm. when pac gets countered or is on the receiving end of a beating he always resorts to his jab/straight left. it wont be an epic fight, manny doesn't have the tools necessary to hand floyd his first L, hes to one dimensional.

[hitking]

That's what capped the night for me when Pac brought out Floyd. What now Floyd? Pac looks vulnerable, he looks like he may have slipped. It's time for you to fight Pac. Better say something Floyd..

You musta missed Pac's ESPN interview after the fight when he went with the ole ask my promotor line. And when asked directly about Mayweather at the postfight presser, Arum said "Floyd was gonna have to wait, they want a 4th fight with JMM." Let the Mayweather's scared of Pac go bruh. It sounded dumb before. But now its just plain ignorant.

[GRUSTLER]

Marquez is a combo counter puncher, Floyd is a one shot counter puncher. To give pac fits he should know how to pivot and dodge to get a win from pac. I don't see Floyd doing a Marquez on Pac. they have a different style of being defensive.

Floyd shoulder roll won't work on Pac. If he wants to win he has to emulate marquez. Marquez in my book is a master boxer. If it was a draw a win for either Pac or Marquez is definitely debatable it was that close. Just want give props to Marquez he is a genuine master boxer.

This is how I see it. Pac's kryptonite is Marquez. Marquez Kryptonite is Floyd. Floyd Krytonite maybe Pac. (Floyd ain't good with Fast relentless southpaws evident to his past fights with zab, ortiz last round with him were ortis pressured him to the ropes)..

In other words I want to see Floyd Fight Pac. It will be another epic fight.

Why do people keep saying Floyd is a one shot fighter. Floyd can throw combinations together and go offensive spontaneoulsy in a defensive stance without even getting touched. Floyd is a better counter puncher than JMM and has more power. Pac wouldn't stand a chance. What happened to Pac's power against JMM? He didn't even knock JMM down because Marquez fixed his flaws and adjusted his game plan while Pac was still pretty much the same fighter with a weak right hand. I said it a long time ago that people claim Pac improved but the guys he was fighting after JMM was not a measuring up. I tell you one thing and that is that Clottey and Mosley should be ashamed of themselves for making Pac out to be so ferocious by covering up and running, meanwhile a Lightweight moving up beat Pac up.