Freddie Roach "Who The F*** Are Mayweather & Bradley? We'll Fight Martinez @ 150"

[Forza]

Somebody forgot to take their xanax today. or wait is drinking again?

[Brother Jay]

People will criticise Pac no matter what. The guy was a freakin lightweight three years ago now he's potentially gonna fight Sergio Martinez at 150 lbs. Don't talk about that catchweight champ shi t, Martinez is the one who's been calling HIM OUT. There's really no one at welterweight. Welterweight was a danger zone a couple of years ago. Manny has pummelled the crap out of Cotto, Margarito and Mosley. Mayweather doesn't want to fight him. Who else is there? Tim Bradley would be another Ricky Hatton-esque mauling. Devon Alexander has no heart and can't sell a ticket. Berto looked terrible against Ortiz and really doesn't deserve the fight. If he fights Ortiz, people are gonna say he's fighting Floyd's left overs. Martinez at 150 lbs isn't the most legitimate fight because Martinez is likely gonna be weight drained, but hey, you can't expect Manny to go up to middleweight to fight him. Manny struggles to even hit the 147 lbs limit. He's a smallish welterweight, and Martinez is, I guess the way I look at it, a huge jr-middleweight/smallish middleweight.

So if Andre Ward calls out Pacquiao, it legitimizes a catchweight at 150lbs?

Is this your best attempt at logic?

Pacquiao has had MANY opportunities to fight boxers when they were on top.

Pacquiao has CHOSEN to wait until top boxers lose before he will face them.

Explain all those years he avoided Mosley!

Explain why Pacquiao didn't fight ANY top fighter since Marquez?

*******s worship the idea of coincidence with no further care for explanation.

Its for this reason that Pacquiao can be seen as a star ... his fanbase has absolutely no objectivity ... and therefore will not, or rather CANNOT criticize Manny Pacquiao regardless of what he does or doesn't do.

I think we have all agreed, both Floyd fans and Pac fans, that Floyd Mayweather has made some mistakes OUTSIDE of the ring. His comments, his involvement with individuals who have found themselves in trouble, etc.

Floyd's fans have been critical about Floyd stepping his competition up, and he did when he faced #1 WW Shane Mosley when Shane was still #1. Then he did it again against #2 WW Victor Ortiz who earned the right to fight Floyd by beating Andre Berto, former #2. He knew to be the man you had to beat the man.

It was criticism from Floyd fans that made Floyd walk his last two opponents down. By not kissing Floyd's asss and telling him that everything he does was gold, we got Floyd to fight in a much more exciting fashion. Everything about what Floyd does HAS TO BE LEGITIMATE because if it isn't, you can rest assured that he'll get criticism from all sides.

*******s worship Pacquiao instead of pushing him to be better, and that's why Pacquiao has consistently delivered these victories in unsound catchweight matches.

How to do justify your last 6 opponents all coming off the biggest losses of their careers with a tune up in between?

Could you imagine in football the Indianapolis Colts would only play the New Orleans Saints if and only if the Saints defensive line had to come in 10lbs lighter than regular? Or if Rafael Nadal would only play Roger Federer when Federer was coming off of a loss right before their match each time they played?

These patterns would disgrace any athlete in any sport. Yet *******s see nothing wrong with these tactics when Manny Pacquiao employs them.

Its shameful and makes them all hypocrites, but those terms don't mean a thing to these kinds of people. They have no self respect and therefore they have no shame.

I mean come on ... 6 consecutive opponents coming off the biggest losses of their career? That's the legacy of an ATG? And let's not kid ourselves ... it was those specific 6 fights that have created this so-called legacy for Manny Pacquiao. Meaning that without those 6 fights, Pacquiao wouldn't even be a candidate for ATG or really even P4P.

The real question is "Who the fcuk is Freddie Roach"?

I'll tell you.

He is a trainer who knows that his time in the sport is extremely limited.

He is a trainer who has had a fighter test positive for PEDs under his tutelage before.

He is a trainer who has contradicted himself on record time and time again.

He is a trainer who has said on the record that "fighters are using PEDs and that's the way it is today. It is the world we live in."

He is a trainer who claims that his fighter is the drug free but has made every excuse so that his fighter does not have to take the tests along with Mayweather to prove it.

Manny Pacquiao is the biggest publicity stunt in boxing since Gerry Cooney and Roach knows it. Why else would Roach ask Mosley to take PED tests and then fold like a cot when Mosley replied "Sure .. as long as Manny is willing to take them as well"?

Unfortunately for them, *******s see this as prideful and supporting a countryman no matter what, but isn't that exactly what they did with Ferdinand Marcos? And we all know how well that worked out for them.

I guess this is their way. Pacquiao can lie and cajole *******s all day long, but boxing isn't just for peasants. There are some thinking, rational people who enjoy the sport as well and we will never acknowledge Manny's hype for real substance.

Give credit where it is due but also criticize that which is not just.

[Canelo Phresh]

So if Andre Ward calls out Pacquiao, it legitimizes a catchweight at 150lbs?

Is this your best attempt at logic?

Pacquiao has had MANY opportunities to fight boxers when they were on top.

Pacquiao has CHOSEN to wait until top boxers lose before he will face them.

Explain all those years he avoided Mosley!

Explain why Pacquiao didn't fight ANY top fighter since Marquez?

*******s worship the idea of coincidence with no further care for explanation.

Its for this reason that Pacquiao can be seen as a star ... his fanbase has absolutely no objectivity ... and therefore will not, or rather CANNOT criticize Manny Pacquiao regardless of what he does or doesn't do.

I think we have all agreed, both Floyd fans and Pac fans, that Floyd Mayweather has made some mistakes OUTSIDE of the ring. His comments, his involvement with individuals who have found themselves in trouble, etc.

Floyd's fans have been critical about Floyd stepping his competition up, and he did when he faced #1 WW Shane Mosley when Shane was still #1. Then he did it again against #2 WW Victor Ortiz who earned the right to fight Floyd by beating Andre Berto, former #2. He knew to be the man you had to beat the man.

It was criticism from Floyd fans that made Floyd walk his last two opponents down. By not kissing Floyd's asss and telling him that everything he does was gold, we got Floyd to fight in a much more exciting fashion. Everything about what Floyd does HAS TO BE LEGITIMATE because if it isn't, you can rest assured that he'll get criticism from all sides.

*******s worship Pacquiao instead of pushing him to be better, and that's why Pacquiao has consistently delivered these victories in unsound catchweight matches.

How to do justify your last 6 opponents all coming off the biggest losses of their careers with a tune up in between?

Could you imagine in football the Indianapolis Colts would only play the New Orleans Saints if and only if the Saints defensive line had to come in 10lbs lighter than regular? Or if Rafael Nadal would only play Roger Federer when Federer was coming off of a loss right before their match each time they played?

These patterns would disgrace any athlete in any sport. Yet *******s see nothing wrong with these tactics when Manny Pacquiao employs them.

Its shameful and makes them all hypocrites, but those terms don't mean a thing to these kinds of people. They have no self respect and therefore they have no shame.

I mean come on ... 6 consecutive opponents coming off the biggest losses of their career? That's the legacy of an ATG? And let's not kid ourselves ... it was those specific 6 fights that have created this so-called legacy for Manny Pacquiao. Meaning that without those 6 fights, Pacquiao wouldn't even be a candidate for ATG or really even P4P.

The real question is "Who the fcuk is Freddie Roach"?

I'll tell you.

He is a trainer who knows that his time in the sport is extremely limited.

He is a trainer who has had a fighter test positive for PEDs under his tutelage before.

He is a trainer who has contradicted himself on record time and time again.

He is a trainer who has said on the record that "fighters are using PEDs and that's the way it is today. It is the world we live in."

He is a trainer who claims that his fighter is the drug free but has made every excuse so that his fighter does not have to take the tests along with Mayweather to prove it.

Manny Pacquiao is the biggest publicity stunt in boxing since Gerry Cooney and Roach knows it. Why else would Roach ask Mosley to take PED tests and then fold like a cot when Mosley replied "Sure .. as long as Manny is willing to take them as well"?

Unfortunately for them, *******s see this as prideful and supporting a countryman no matter what, but isn't that exactly what they did with Ferdinand Marcos? And we all know how well that worked out for them.

I guess this is their way. Pacquiao can lie and cajole *******s all day long, but boxing isn't just for peasants. There are some thinking, rational people who enjoy the sport as well and we will never acknowledge Manny's hype for real substance.

Give credit where it is due but also criticize that which is not just.

amen brother j

[hugh grant]

There is one reasson why this fight isnt happening. And its because FLoyd dont care what people think about him!

People call him a chicken, duck and cow and it glazes floyds eyes with boredom. He knows hes a joke in the world of boxing but he dont care. Thats why the fight wont happen.

[Brother Jay]

There is one reasson why this fight isnt happening. And its because FLoyd dont care what people think about him!

People call him a chicken, duck and cow and it glazes floyds eyes with boredom. He knows hes a joke in the world of boxing but he dont care. Thats why the fight wont happen.

Well obviously Pacquiao doesn't care what people think about him either.

People call him pacroid, pek pek muscles, Manny Pacqui-growth hormone, and my favorite ... the Congressman Elect who Injects.

Manny Pacquiao has clearly said that he was willing to take the USADA tests on record, but when it came time to pay the piper, Manny left his wallet at home.

Manny will NOT sign a contract.

Manny will NOT fight take the USADA random tests.

These were all the things that Manny said that he would do. How do you explain this Hugh Grant? These were all original demands, and Pacquiao claimed on video that he would comply.

PACQUIAO STILL HAS NOT SIGNED A CONTRACT.

Wouldn't a signed contract put an end to all talk?

Doesn't action speak louder than words?

Are you Pacquiao's spokesperson? Because you and 99% of the other *******ed peasants on this site sure act like it!

How do you know what Manny wants? None of you have ANY access to him or his thoughts other than interviews!

Not one Floyd fan has ever spoken as if we knew Floyd's mind. We can only go by what is written and said in interviews. We only know Floyd's position because he has made it clear and followed through with everything he said he would do.

Floyd has lived up to every single demand Pacquiao has made.

Pacquiao has not lived up to every demand Floyd has made.

See the difference?

I know your reply will gloss over this, or Pootytang will arrive with his soft-spoken style of ******ity, but however you spin it, Pacquiao himself has lied to the fans.

He said he would takes ALL tests, but never did.

That's irrefutable. Manny Pacquiao not only doesn't care about what his fans think about him, he doesn't care about keeping his word. Its just that fans of the sport hold Floyd Mayweather accountable for keeping his word. While *******s make up words for what Pacquiao "might have" or "probably" meant.

It would be shameful if *******s had any shame in the first place.

[cupocity303]

Freddie is starting to sound like Roger and Floyd Senior, literally.

Almost as incoherent as them, and ****ting on all of the fighters abilities as two ******s.

[hugh grant]

Well obviously Pacquiao doesn't care what people think about him either.

People call him pacroid, pek pek muscles, Manny Pacqui-growth hormone, and my favorite ... the Congressman Elect who Injects.

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Pac passed every test ever, and people only accused him of being on PEDS because of his success in the ring. They didnt accuse him of it, because he refused a test, so people will think what they want to think about Pac regardless.
Pac does care what people think about him. It means a lot to Pac that people think he is so damn great he must be on PEDS. It is the highest compliment a boxer can get.

Floyd wont fight pac though, because he dont care people call him a chicken and duck. Just like when he was called a ducker against Cotto, he just retired.

[maguirre]

Well obviously Pacquiao doesn't care what people think about him either.

People call him pacroid, pek pek muscles, Manny Pacqui-growth hormone, and my favorite ... the Congressman Elect who Injects.

Same idiot who's been saying Pac doesn't deserve to be ped tested because he's just an overrated boxer who fought inferior fighters.

There's really no point in arguing with these idiots.

;-)

[letsgobrady]

it didn't work on floyd...martinez's camp tried to chase him but to no avail so sergio is back to whoring himself to pac.

because looking bad doesn't get you a fight with floyd it gets you a fight with pacquiao as we can see.team pacquiao didn't want anything to do with sergio before now we got freddie roach saying that sergio looked like garbage in his last fight and we will fight him at 150

[letsgobrady]

are you two ******s done? because pacquiao didn't look good in his last fight he can't be honest and say martinez didn't look good in his last fight?

he can say whatever he wants to say but it's kinda funny and hippocritical to hear a fat person make fun of another fat person