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Originally posted by jtjrg35 View PostThe outrage and controversy that surrounds the outcome of the fight is more about race than it is about the fight. Historically the media (white media and a significant % of whites) has always had a difficult time or flat out refuses to accept a Black man who is outspoken and proud. America like's its' Negroes to be submissive and docile. Americans actually were threatened by Martin Luther King and let’s not forget how much white America really felt about Muhammad Ali.
Now that we have the backdrop let’s fast forward to this fight. People are calling this a controversy and at the same time stating that Mayweather did nothing wrong. ?????????? Wow so the Black guy has to reach some sort of extra standards that are only visible to white people. Instead of evaluating the situation honestly – ORTIZ WAS LOOKING FOR A WAY OUT!!!!!! Ortiz wanted to quit like he did against Maidana stating “he didn’t deserve to get it like this”. Any boxer who jumps like he’s going for a rebound to head butt his opponent because he’s desperate is looking for a way out. Instead of questioning Ortiz’ toughness – he clearing could have gotten up because it was a knockdown punch not a knockout punch. Ortiz has no heart. By the way America didn’t and doesn’t care about Ortiz they will cheer and support anyone who can beat that Negro.
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get out of it, wake the **** up, and be your own damn man.......
this is how you sum up this fight....... it was a FIX! you got two set up guys and a fall guy........ mayweather and cortez were the set up guys and ortiz was the fall guy........
all the professionalism inside that ring, with all the years of experience, and that is the out come we got!?!?! unprofessionalism and confusion, and a WIDE OPEN CHIN!!!! with the ref not looking!?!? WTF!?!?
and now any comment about floyd being a ***chead opportunist that robbed us of the fight continuing... is now racist!?!?!
if thats the case then i must be a grand wizard clansmen for all the criticizing i've done of floyd over the years.............. which has absolutely nothing to do with his race............
but i must be the crazy racist is with a black and filipino child then........ gtfohwtws!!!
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Originally posted by jtjrg35 View PostBro, that is the question. What exactly did Mayweather do wrong? What actions are you referring to?
if all his fans are happy with that outcome, the way he garnered his win, then fine, but for those who wanted to see boxing and see the fight unfold organically, floyd ruined that from ever happening.....
i would be impressed if floyd got the ko when ortiz was paying attention and or had his guard up ready to fight, not looking to see what in the hell floyd tasted like with his kisses, and not waiting for joe cortez to stop looking at pdiddy in the crowd, looking for maybe an autograph........
it's sad that the issue gets brought up about mayweather, he's not the issue, just a small part, the big issue is ortiz and cortez.........
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Originally posted by waxfondler View PostLOL. no excuse for vic (he DESERVED to get laid out). tell me why floyd kept his cool regarding judah??? all im saying is floyd is CAPABLE of taking the high road, but didnt... so should we all ASSUME floyd will always take the classless route (and treat him as such?? cuz im sure you guys would be the first to complain about the unjust assumptions being placed on floyd)??? i, for one, expect good sportsmanship from floyd. its pretty funny how you guys basically act as if his actions were the norm & is completely justifiable. you ask what i would do in that situation??? i would smack ortiz is the mouth to get his attention so we can resume fighting (& add some trash talk). i WOULDNT throw a shot with bad intentions on a dude that wasnt looking and had his hands down.... for me, it cheapens the KO... especially if i felt that i wouldve KO'ed him anyway.
the funny thing is the floyd apologists on this forum... BOTTOM LINE, if you were to place ANY other fighter in floyds position, the fighter wouldve gotten criticized. PERIOD. the ACTION is getting the criticism, not the fighter. in fact, the blame is being passed around evenly to all parties involved (joe, vic, & floyd).... so the whining and playing the victim card is pretty pathetic.
When Floyd through the first shot Ortiz was looking,Ortiz should have put his hands up after that,instead he looks at Cortez and gets clocked with a straight right.
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Originally posted by deuce_drop View Postwhat mayweather did wrong was he took away the rest of the fight......... thats what he did......
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Originally posted by deuce_drop View Postrace issues pertaining to this fight argument are pathetic to say the least....... those who bring up race issues are under the SLAVE MENTALITY.....
get out of it, wake the **** up, and be your own damn man.......
this is how you sum up this fight....... it was a FIX! you got two set up guys and a fall guy........ mayweather and cortez were the set up guys and ortiz was the fall guy........
all the professionalism inside that ring, with all the years of experience, and that is the out come we got!?!?! unprofessionalism and confusion, and a WIDE OPEN CHIN!!!! with the ref not looking!?!? WTF!?!?
and now any comment about floyd being a ***chead opportunist that robbed us of the fight continuing... is now racist!?!?!
if thats the case then i must be a grand wizard clansmen for all the criticizing i've done of floyd over the years.............. which has absolutely nothing to do with his race............
but i must be the crazy racist is with a black and filipino child then........ gtfohwtws!!!
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Originally posted by Imhotep View PostWhen Floyd through the first shot Ortiz was looking,Ortiz should have put his hands up after that,instead he looks at Cortez and gets clocked with a straight right.
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