Mayweather v Ortiz and Race

[waxfondler]

I think its moreabout Floyd not being liked period then it has to do with race...But at the end of the day where I'm from if someone try's to be dirty with you ya be dirty right back..Called an eye for an eye,Ortiz could have cut May open with that butt he threw..I for one am happy May did what he did..Let's hope Ortiz learned a lesson about karma...War Money!!!!

great post. i agree its more about floyd being hated rather than race. its frustrating when people go straight to race card & choose to ignore floyd's actions that lead to him being hated.

joe, vic, & floyd are to blame.

personally, i wouldve rather seen the fight go on so we can see floyd put on a show... but apparently, people here are content with being robbed from seeing a good fight.

[jtjrg35]

Yeah, the comments (bigotry) here are very immature and crasp. I'm mexican american and I do not agree with what Ortiz did and can totally understand Mayweather's action.

It wasn't the best decision, but it was justifiable and more importantly, legal. Mayweather has done nothing wrong but win (by any means nessesary) in the confines of the governining bodies' rules and regulations.

Was Ortiz looking for a way out?? I don't think so. Do I think that he was frusterated as hell and acted as result of the frustration? Yes. Classless and immature? Yes. Deserved what he got as a result? I think so. As much as people hate Mayweather and can probably be the most hated athlete; in this situation, he shouldn't be the scapegoat. Logically, I can't see anyone argue that.

My brother JBell11, I wasn't implying that anyone is crying racism. The issue is how the media viewed this event. How Ortiz comes off as the victim who did something that are on the books as being out of bounds and his opponent who did everything within the lines.

[johnx]

stop playing victim..cause alot of blacks were saying Mayweather knocked that sp!c the *** out!!!! and other racial slurs..Its not right that blacks play victim when they are the most racist b@stards out there

[jtjrg35]

Its impossible to put it any better then you did.If Floyd lost these clowns would have been making threads about how "blacks fighters are falling" and jumping for joy.These clowns are just jealous mad that fighters of their race suck Gremlin balls.

Thank you bro!! I appreciate the input.

[thatnickuh]

LOL. no excuse for vic (he DESERVED to get laid out). tell me why floyd kept his cool regarding judah??? all im saying is floyd is CAPABLE of taking the high road, but didnt... so should we all ASSUME floyd will always take the classless route (and treat him as such?? cuz im sure you guys would be the first to complain about the unjust assumptions being placed on floyd)??? i, for one, expect good sportsmanship from floyd. its pretty funny how you guys basically act as if his actions were the norm & is completely justifiable. you ask what i would do in that situation??? i would smack ortiz is the mouth to get his attention so we can resume fighting (& add some trash talk). i WOULDNT throw a shot with bad intentions on a dude that wasnt looking and had his hands down.... for me, it cheapens the KO... especially if i felt that i wouldve KO'ed him anyway.

the funny thing is the floyd apologists on this forum... BOTTOM LINE, if you were to place ANY other fighter in floyds position, the fighter wouldve gotten criticized. PERIOD. the ACTION is getting the criticism, not the fighter. in fact, the blame is being passed around evenly to all parties involved (joe, vic, & floyd).... so the whining and playing the victim card is pretty pathetic.

You're full of it. Ortiz was looking right at Mayweather when Mayweather hit him with the 1st left hand. He didn't look away until he got hit. There was nothing unsportsmanlike from Mayweather. The fight had resumed and Mayweather was ready to fight instead of hugging and kissing. The intentional headbutts were unsportsmanlike, not the legal punches. The only person who deserves blame is Ortiz.

[jtjrg35]

Exactly the opposite is true.

If Ortiz would have sucker-punched Mayweather and knocked him out like that, I shudder to think how much b1tching and crying there would be about it!

The media nearly always sides with African-American athletes, whether they are right or wrong, and they show MUCH less respect for Hispanic and White athletes.

People in the US media have been going on and on about the headbutt from Ortiz. But they say little or nothing about Andre Ward's blatently deliberate headbutts, including the one that ended the fight with Mikkel Kessler!

And the HBO commentators didn't even mention the headbutt from Andre Berto that cut Dejan Zaveck.

That's for your post bro; but I don't see much evidence that the media sides with blacks a majority of the time. But beyond that the media should simply be fair and equal.

[jtjrg35]

You're full of it. Ortiz was looking right at Mayweather when Mayweather hit him with the 1st left hand. He didn't look away until he got hit. There was nothing unsportsmanlike from Mayweather. The fight had resumed and Mayweather was ready to fight instead of hugging and kissing. The intentional headbutts were unsportsmanlike, not the legal punches. The only person who deserves blame is Ortiz.

I'm with you on that, that's why I say he wanted to find a way out.

[Weebler I]

B-Hop is outspoken, perhaps more than any other fighter, but the media have nothing but reverance for him and what he has achieved.

[Barry Halls]

The outrage and controversy that surrounds the outcome of the fight is more about race than it is about the fight. Historically the media (white media and a significant % of whites) has always had a difficult time or flat out refuses to accept a Black man who is outspoken and proud. America like's its' Negroes to be submissive and docile. Americans actually were threatened by Martin Luther King and let’s not forget how much white America really felt about Muhammad Ali.

Now that we have the backdrop let’s fast forward to this fight. People are calling this a controversy and at the same time stating that Mayweather did nothing wrong. ?????????? Wow so the Black guy has to reach some sort of extra standards that are only visible to white people. Instead of evaluating the situation honestly – ORTIZ WAS LOOKING FOR A WAY OUT!!!!!! Ortiz wanted to quit like he did against Maidana stating “he didn’t deserve to get it like this”. Any boxer who jumps like he’s going for a rebound to head butt his opponent because he’s desperate is looking for a way out. Instead of questioning Ortiz’ toughness – he clearing could have gotten up because it was a knockdown punch not a knockout punch. Ortiz has no heart. By the way America didn’t and doesn’t care about Ortiz they will cheer and support anyone who can beat that Negro.

Please share your thoughts

i only have 1 thought. Give me a ****ing break.

[jtjrg35]

stop playing victim..cause alot of blacks were saying Mayweather knocked that sp!c the *** out!!!! and other racial slurs..Its not right that blacks play victim when they are the most racist b@stards out there

I think you obviously misunderstood the entire point of the initial post. No one is crying or complaining this is a mature conversation about a topic that's a lot bigger than a boxing match. Now you can either open your mind, if you would like to make this country a better place. Or just keep your immature comments to yourself.