Mayweather v Ortiz and Race

[thatnickuh]

Exactly the opposite is true.

If Ortiz would have sucker-punched Mayweather and knocked him out like that, I shudder to think how much b1tching and crying there would be about it!

This is just idiotic. Most of the crying that is currently going on is coming from people who are villainizing Mayweather(this site is a perfect example) over his legal shots. You have to be a complete idiot to think that the same public that is villainizing Mayweather when he was the victim, would be sympathizing with him like they are Ortiz had he been the one who actually cheated. Had Mayweather lept into Ortiz with his head intentionally, there would be zero sympathy for him. The initial post here is spot on.

[-ELO-]

if there's a double standard (which i think there is) it only helps Floyd BECAUSE he's black.

what about those racist Ustream comments he made against Pacquiao and his race and nationality. He got admonished for it but for the most part, got a free pass. In America you can say whatever you want about Asians with impunity. Say anything about black people, its career suicide.

but if Pac had said some things about black people or called Floyd the N-word, Pacquiao would not recover, his image tarnished forever. NAACP, Jesse Jackson, white media would be up Pac's ass

btw welcome to the new America, this aint 1965 anymore!

Not only that but remember the racist thug BHOP. Against Trinidad and against Calzaghe, now reverse the roles for a second and think how the media would react to them. It's quite pathetic really.

[JBell11]

Yeah, the comments (bigotry) here are very immature and crasp. I'm mexican american and I do not agree with what Ortiz did and can totally understand Mayweather's action.

It wasn't the best decision, but it was justifiable and more importantly, legal. Mayweather has done nothing wrong but win (by any means nessesary) in the confines of the governining bodies' rules and regulations.

Was Ortiz looking for a way out?? I don't think so. Do I think that he was frusterated as hell and acted as result of the frustration? Yes. Classless and immature? Yes. Deserved what he got as a result? I think so. As much as people hate Mayweather and can probably be the most hated athlete; in this situation, he shouldn't be the scapegoat. Logically, I can't see anyone argue that.

[jtiger777]

the real problem here is race, not in a sense you all hate blacks but you all hate blacks who talk back, demand respect, rebel, retaliate to wrong doings, who dont put up with nonsense, who has opinions that you might disagree with, and see themselfs as something other than a simple minded slave that will accept anything, and will boast about it... those privlages are only given to the white man! he can do it all he wants! he can retaliate by bombing you, airing you out on national tv, he will kill you and televise it, he wont forgive you, hes ****y, he tells you how mighty he is, and goes around the world forcing his policies philosophies and religions on all nations... but like i said when a person of color ever displays these same actions its the worst thing going but nobody dies lol... red Ks accepted

[jtiger777]

if there's a double standard (which i think there is) it only helps Floyd BECAUSE he's black.

what about those racist Ustream comments he made against Pacquiao and his race and nationality. He got admonished for it but for the most part, got a free pass. In America you can say whatever you want about Asians with impunity. Say anything about black people, its career suicide.

but if Pac had said some things about black people or called Floyd the N-word, Pacquiao would not recover, his image tarnished forever. NAACP, Jesse Jackson, white media would be up Pac's ass

btw welcome to the new America, this aint 1965 anymore!

this article is about the ortiz mayweather fight, not ustream i understand ur point but it would help if u stayed on topic!!!! and racism still exists brother its reality!! and jesse jackson and al sharpton are clowns who pop up only when they hear the N word! peace out!!!!!!

[Rome-By-Ko]

I think its moreabout Floyd not being liked period then it has to do with race...But at the end of the day where I'm from if someone try's to be dirty with you ya be dirty right back..Called an eye for an eye,Ortiz could have cut May open with that butt he threw..I for one am happy May did what he did..Let's hope Ortiz learned a lesson about karma...War Money!!!!

[Rome-By-Ko]

Not only that but remember the racist thug BHOP. Against Trinidad and against Calzaghe, now reverse the roles for a second and think how the media would react to them. It's quite pathetic really.

Am I missing something??What did BHOP do to Tito and Joey Zags??He did something dirty to umm??

[waxfondler]

STop making excuses for vic. He cheated and then got his ass beat. And you want floyd to take the high road. Cool, WOuld you? I doubt it.

WHile race shouldn't be an issue, you know if vic did this to manny they'd talk about the headbutt. Lampley, Steward, Merchant never called it inetentional. Knowing that, I can understand why people associate the backlash with race.

LOL. no excuse for vic (he DESERVED to get laid out). tell me why floyd kept his cool regarding judah??? all im saying is floyd is CAPABLE of taking the high road, but didnt... so should we all ASSUME floyd will always take the classless route (and treat him as such?? cuz im sure you guys would be the first to complain about the unjust assumptions being placed on floyd)??? i, for one, expect good sportsmanship from floyd. its pretty funny how you guys basically act as if his actions were the norm & is completely justifiable. you ask what i would do in that situation??? i would smack ortiz is the mouth to get his attention so we can resume fighting (& add some trash talk). i WOULDNT throw a shot with bad intentions on a dude that wasnt looking and had his hands down.... for me, it cheapens the KO... especially if i felt that i wouldve KO'ed him anyway.

the funny thing is the floyd apologists on this forum... BOTTOM LINE, if you were to place ANY other fighter in floyds position, the fighter wouldve gotten criticized. PERIOD. the ACTION is getting the criticism, not the fighter. in fact, the blame is being passed around evenly to all parties involved (joe, vic, & floyd).... so the whining and playing the victim card is pretty pathetic.

[-ELO-]

I think its moreabout Floyd not being liked period then it has to do with race...But at the end of the day where I'm from if someone try's to be dirty with you ya be dirty right back..Called an eye for an eye,Ortiz could have cut May open with that butt he threw..I for one am happy May did what he did..Let's hope Ortiz learned a lesson about karma...War Money!!!!

That wasn't karma, that was just pure classless, ****** behavior.

[jtjrg35]

Great thoughts!!

Brothers!! those agree with me and those who don't. I think it's important for Americans (of all nationalities) to deal with each other fairly. For my brothers who said I was using the race card - I was absolutely not. I was pointing out the hypocrisy that keeps blacks in one corner and whites in the other. If it's legal, can it still be unfair? This is a boxing forum and I respect that but let's broaden the scope of our discussions to help this country truly meets its potential.

Please share your thoughts and brothers let's be adult and courteous. Let's stay away from disrespectful comment's we're better than that.