Comments Thread For: Atlas: Pacquiao Has a Tougher Fight Than Mayweather

[BoxingFollower]

This rematch shouldn't even be made, there was no longer no demand for it. It's that Pacquiao is a different fighter today than he was back in 2008. Jmm is my favorite mexican boxer of all time, but he's gonna get domolished by Pacquiao.

I got (this version) of Pacquiao by a 15-1 odds.

[The Big Dunn]

But look what happen to Oscar hatton and molsey. All 3 that Floyd and manny fought. If u guys wanna say that if manny struggle with Marquez then manny will lose to Floyd well manny beat those 3 guys in a way more impressive win compare to Floyd. Style makes fight, just because fighter a struggle with fighter b and fighter c beat figher b doesnt mean fighter a is gonna struggle against fighter c. So comparing boxers that they both have fought is ******ed.

Obviously triangle theories are suspect. That said, when comparing past performances to get an idea of who would win its reasonable to look atcommon opponents.

The point is floyd cruising against JMM in many ways is more embarassing. Manny had to fight his best for 24 and in the eyes of many lost both fights. By the end of rd 2, we all knew the floyd JMM fight was over.

[djinferno]

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If Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, Delahoya, Clottey couldn't take Pacquiaos new power, then Marquez is surely to get knocked unconscious.

-Well Mosley, I agree, he was scared after that knockdown

-Cotto faught ******, he went in there thinking he was the big dog and paid for it, im of the tough that given a remach, the outcome could of been different...

-Hatton was a bum, could dominate idiots and shot fighters with his aggression but as soon as he was in there with top opposition, he folded like a cheap suit...

-DLH was shot before the Mayweather fight, i believe he was done after that Hopkins fight...

Clottey is the only guy that showed Manny respect for his power, and Manny did not look impressive at all, he actually got hit allot and Clottey if you remember was throwing 2 punches per round, give or take 1

I know one thing, Money May is smarter in a ring then all those guys combined so i dont think Pac would find him that easy...

[BoxingFollower]

-Well Mosley, I agree, he was scared after that knockdown

-Cotto faught ******, he went in there thinking he was the big dog and paid for it, im of the tough that given a remach, the outcome could of been different...

-Hatton was a bum, could dominate idiots and shot fighters with his aggression but as soon as he was in there with top opposition, he folded like a cheap suit...

-DLH was shot before the Mayweather fight, i believe he was done after that Hopkins fight...

Clottey is the only guy that showed Manny respect for his power, and Manny did not look impressive at all, he actually got hit allot and Clottey if you remember was throwing 2 punches per round, give or take 1

I know one thing, Money May is smarter in a ring then all those guys combined so i dont think Pac would find him that easy...

So how do you see this fight going?

[ChampBox@PR]

Atlas is full of ****!!!! Marquez will be competitive for 2 rounds and then proceed to get KTFO. Manny is simply, fresher, younger and better at this point!

Floyd will have some trouble early with Ortiz, May will be a bit rusty, and he always have some troubles with southpaws(everyone does, including southpaws themselves). The fight will be competitive till Mayweather adjust, gets the rust off. From that point on, he wins every round. Ortiz chance is in the first 4 rounds after that he is doomed.

My prediction, Pacquiao KO6 over Marquez

Floyd UD 116-111 over Ortiz. In rounds 9-3, but Ortiz will kd Mayweather for the first time in his career, ill bet on it to!!!

[AllEyesOpen]

Styles make fights, something true boxing fans know and understand. Pacquiao will always have trouble with Marquez because Marquez's style of counterpunching relies on his opponents aggression. When Diaz came at Marquez hard it made for a FOTY performance from Marquez, because Marquez does his best work in exchanges, where he's catching his opponent with harder accurate shots. Guys like Mayweather and even Chris John kept a solid jab in his face and rarely allowed those exchanges that Marquez thrives in. When guys claim Mayweather didn't press Marquez for the KO, they're right, but not because he couldn't but because that would be playing right into Marquez's style.

Marquez & Pacquiao love action, but for different reasons, and whenever they meet it will create fireworks, but i still don't think either Ortiz or Marquez have much more of a chance of pulling off the upset.

[The Big Dunn]

Atlas is full of ****!!!! Marquez will be competitive for 2 rounds and then proceed to get KTFO. Manny is simply, fresher, younger and better at this point!

Floyd will have some trouble early with Ortiz, May will be a bit rusty, and he always have some troubles with southpaws(everyone does, including southpaws themselves). The fight will be competitive till Mayweather adjust, gets the rust off. From that point on, he wins every round. Ortiz chance is in the first 4 rounds after that he is doomed.

My prediction, Pacquiao KO6 over Marquez

Floyd UD 116-111 over Ortiz. In rounds 9-3, but Ortiz will kd Mayweather for the first time in his career, ill bet on it to!!!

Zab knocked MAyweather down the ref just missed it.

[4Corners]

I completely disagree that Pacquiao has the tougher fight. Maybe in the end, only because Marquez seems to give Manny such great problems, may Pacquiao end up having a tougher time with Marquez than Floyd will with Ortiz. Juan Manuel Marquez at this stage in his career is far less on tough fighter scale than Victor Ortiz is right now. Marquez is about 5-6 years removed from his prime, and 2-3 years removed from being a past prime but still great fighter. Victor Ortiz is in his early prime. Mayweather already whooped Marquez easily at 144 2 years ago, and Victor Ortiz is coming off the biggest win of his career over unbeaten Andre Berto at 147. Make no mistake, Berto is still a great fighter. His one loss to Ortiz doesn't dismiss that. If Berto comes out and looks bad against Zaveck, than we can talk about Berto being crap. Ortiz' record should really be 31-1. He was disqualified early in his career for hitting someone on their way down, and he should have won the close decision against Peterson. The fight was THAT close, and Ortiz floored him. Victor should have won that fight.

The only question mark on Ortiz resume is when Maidana knocked him out, and it's a big one. However, he has bounced back to go 5-0-1 (should have won the Peterson draw), and beat Nate Cambell, Vivian Harris, should have beat Lamont Peterson, and Andre Berto along the way. That's not bad, considering he's still only 24. I would LOVE to see a Ortiz-Maidana rematch at 144 or 147, which could happen because Ortiz won't be moving on to Pacquiao once Mayweather beats him.

I am just saying that in no way shape or form did Pacquiao take a tougher fight. Pacquiao will probably knock Marquez out in 3 or 4 rounds, and everyone will say he's the greatest fighter who ever lived. You can bet on that. I LOVE how Floyd is also criticized for picking Ortiz. When Ortiz beat Berto for WBC title, he called out for a fight with Pacquiao, and Pacquiao instead chose to fight Marquez (who he already said his business was over with). Than Floyd picks to fight Ortiz and gets criticized. If Pacquiao had chosen to fight Ortiz, all you Mayweather haters know that youw ould gladly applaud Manny for finally fighting someone coming off big wins and not crap performances. You know it!

Also, who makes the decisions in Pacquiao's camp???? Manny Pacquiao? Bob Arum? Freddie Roach? Michael Knocz? All of the above? Non of the above? All we are hearing is Bob Arum saying Pacquiao will do the tests, but not by the USADA. Then we have Koncz saying Mannyw on't do any testing within 14 days, but all the while we have Manny saying he just wants to fight Floyd next year. Tell us what you want to do Manny! Are you going to do the testing or not? Floyd remains still and saying once Pacquiao himself agrees to do the testing and signs the contract to do it, the fight is on!

By the way, Pacquiao and Arum already lied when they said Pacquiao signed the contract to do random testing last July 2010. Koncz already came out and said Pacquiao never signed or agreed to ANYTHING. I will not listen to what Arum says, Pacquiao needs to speak up and than sign the contract once he beats Marquez. Only then will I believe Pacquiao agreed.

[iNDOLiFER]

Ill Disagree with you about the fight comparisons

-Floyd vs DLH, Floyd found a way to shut DLH out and stuck to it, cruise control
-Pac vs DLH, Pac was fighting very cautious, even in the round that DLH quit, you could tell that he was fearfull of Golden boys power so he boxed very disciplined...

-Floyd vs Hatton, Hatton was very live, came at Floyd as the undefeated fighter he was, Floyd ajusted to him, beat him speed wise and wen Hatton got wreckless out of dispair, he jacked him...
-Pac vs Hatton, Hatton never looked right, had nothing to do with Manny, he had Floyds dad in his corner for the first time and what ever he lurned at camp went out the window as soon as the bell rung, this fool looked confused and comming off a KO loss, the first of his carrer probably wanted to quit after one round...

-Shane vs Floyd, **** was competitive at first, Sugar aint no joke but after a while, Floyd showed he was too quick and that was that...
-Shane vs Pac, I tough was a competitive fight but after that first knock down, all shane wanted to do is survive and collect the check...

-Marquez vs Pac I and II, those where 2 competitive fights, i have both winning one, i gave the draw to Marquez...
-Marquez vs Floyd, to me Marquez looked slow, then again he was in there against Floyd so thats normal, after he went down ,he realized he had nothing that could pose a threat to Money so he took a "L" in a shut out...


Out of this info, you saying that Manny would murder Floyd is bold to say the least...

HELL YEA. is that big and clear enough?

[ChampBox@PR]

Zab knocked MAyweather down the ref just missed it.

No, he didnt, he landed a straight left hand while steping on Mayweathers foot, wich clearly threw May off balance and his glove graced the canvas!!!