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List of fighters Pac should fought instead of Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Marg & Mosley?

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    #41
    Originally posted by OpaiSoma View Post
    Aww somebody burst your vagina.

    Within a year pac went from 130 135 145, Dont forget Hoya was the one who called him out. He was untested at 147 and even at 140/135.

    Imagine Bute fighting the Klits for the very first or second time at HW. But I guess your too dumb to realize that

    Relax buddy. I may be totally wrong but you misunderstood what I'm saying.

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      #42
      Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
      Not this again Spray. If Pac is a natural LW then what is Floyds natural weight class?

      I mean afterall 31 of Floyds 41 fights were fought at 135 pounds or less.

      And I see Floyds opponents mocked all the time. Has Pac not proven to you that hes a legit threat at WW?

      On top of the Floyd stuff heres a question:

      At 147 Pounds who wins:

      Pac vs. Berto
      Pac vs. Ortiz
      Pac vs. Cintron
      Pac vs. Zaveck
      Pac vs. Mosley
      Pac vs. Bailey
      Pac vs. Quintana
      Pac vs. Soto-Karass
      Pac vs Mike Jones
      Pac vs. Jackiewicz
      Pac vs Chavez Jr
      Pac vs. Canelo




      You know like I know he would most likely beat the BRAKES off every fighter on that list. So stop it with that hes a lightweight crap man. You are selling him short bro.
      What does it matter who he would or wouldn't beat? he could easily beat Sylvester Sebastian that doesn't make him a MW, the guy is tiny, he can't even get up to the full 147lbs limit at weigh ins.

      Which of these fighter is he bigger than

      Funeka
      Rios
      Ortiz
      Bradley
      Alexander
      Khan

      If your answer is other than none, I would love to know what you base that on.

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        #43
        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Roach knew that it would be Cotto before Shane since Cotto is an Arum guy but that didn't mean that he didn't want no part of Shane. I think it was around the Hatton fight that Roach thought it may happen at some point (fighting Mosley). Being that Manny was still questionable at WW back then, Roach did have concerns of fighting Mosley and / or Cotto at 147 ..... therefore the catch-weight. After seeing the fight, I don't think it would have made a difference against Cotto.



        Notice that after the Cotto fight, he is now OK with fighting at 147 since they feel that Manny can handle being the smaller guy (come in at about 144) but still do well enough to beat these guys that come in at 147 at the weigh in and much more than that at fight night.
        What??? lol

        Bro he fought Oscar at the LIMIT of 147 Pounds.

        That was BEFORE the Cotto fight.

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          #44
          "Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny," Roach says. "I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter."

          Translation:

          Roach: I told him no both times, and both times I said, one, there isn't enough money there, we rather fight the Golden Boy Joshua Clottey who will bring his 5 fans to Cowboys Stadium, and two, you're too good a fighter, wait till 2011 when you're older and had looked like shit against Mayweather and Mora.

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            #45
            Defo like to see him face berto, timmy, jmm

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              #46
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
              What does it matter who he would or wouldn't beat? he could easily beat Sylvester Sebastian that doesn't make him a MW, the guy is tiny, he can't even get up to the full 147lbs limit at weigh ins.

              Which of these fighter is he bigger than

              Funeka
              Rios
              Ortiz
              Bradley
              Alexander
              Khan

              If your answer is other than none, I would love to know what you base that on.
              You missing the point bro. Has Pac proven to you that he has never been stronger,better, faster or hit harder than right now at 147 Pounds.

              Has he not proven that hes a WW?

              And what about Floyd. Again 31 of his 41 fights thats 90% of his fights were fought at 135/130. What would you say his natural weight class is?

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                #47
                Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood View Post
                "Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny," Roach says. "I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter."

                Translation:

                Roach: I told him no both times, and both times I said, one, there isn't enough money there, we rather fight the Golden Boy Joshua Clottey who will bring his 5 fans to Cowboys Stadium, and two, you're too good a fighter, wait till 2011 when you're older and had looked like shit against Mayweather and Mora.
                I almost fell out of my chair.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                  You missing the point bro. Has Pac proven to you that he has never been stronger,better, faster or hit harder than right now at 147 Pounds.

                  Has he not proven that hes a WW?

                  And what about Floyd. Again 31 of his 41 fights thats 90% of his fights were fought at 135/130. What would you say his natural weight class is?
                  Its pretty clear that Floyd seeing as he can't seem to get himself to weigh lower than 146 is a real WW not to mention making JMM look like a teenager in there with him.

                  Boxing classification is about weight not how well you are doing against much bigger fighters than you.

                  Are you upset Pac isn't fighting JMWs, some of which probably walk around at 170-180lbs in all likelihood just because he beat Marg?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mr. Blobby View Post
                    Moving up 12lbs is alot less than 32lb and if a fit Bute weighed more than Klitschko on fight night i would pick him to win.
                    Oscar is the only person to blame for the outcome. Picking on the little guy and end up being back fired

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                      What does it matter who he would or wouldn't beat? he could easily beat Sylvester Sebastian that doesn't make him a MW, the guy is tiny, he can't even get up to the full 147lbs limit at weigh ins.

                      Which of these fighter is he bigger than

                      Funeka
                      Rios
                      Ortiz
                      Bradley
                      Alexander
                      Khan

                      If your answer is other than none, I would love to know what you base that on.
                      He weighed more than DLH at WW, He weighed only 3lbs less than Hatton who was a career JWW and was considered big for the division. He weighed more than almost all of his opponents at 130 and below. Pac has been in the 140's on fight night for a very long time. If he gets credit for beating bigger guys now, he should get discredit for fighting smaller fighters at 130 and below. You can't have it both ways.

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