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List of fighters Pac should fought instead of Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Marg & Mosley?

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    #21
    It's not who he's fought, it's when he chooses to fight them. He seems to only want to fight them when they have come off big losses recently.

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      #22
      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
      Yea but the Marg fight is not something to brag about.
      yeah you right. take away those title. They should fought at welterweight for Pac to have a bragging rights.

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        #23
        Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood View Post
        Clottey was not a last minute replacement. It was a fight that Clottey had confirmed a while before for the Cowboys Stadium. Like Margarito before Pac-Clottey, was already saying that Arum told him he's going to fight Pacquiao next in November at Cowboys Stadium. All of these fights were all planned, Arum hasn't had any intentions of making Mayweather-Pacquiao since the first negotiations.
        Margarito said he was promised a Pac fight even before he fought the tune up against Garcia.

        But fighting Clottey was the result of Pac refusing to take OST to fight Floyd. And those were the first negotiations.

        "Last minute" may be a bit of a stretch, but I don't see Clottey as anything other than a replacement for the Floyd fight falling through.

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          #24
          Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood View Post
          Fighting Cotto at 145 for a belt that Cotto won vacant at 147 killed it for me. I can't see that as a big win. Mosley at 147 for the WBA title that he won by beating Margarito would have been better. But I understand Roach said Mosley is too good and didn't want to fight him, which is just being honest I guess, something *******s can't do.
          Roach knew that it would be Cotto before Shane since Cotto is an Arum guy but that didn't mean that he didn't want no part of Shane. I think it was around the Hatton fight that Roach thought it may happen at some point (fighting Mosley). Being that Manny was still questionable at WW back then, Roach did have concerns of fighting Mosley and / or Cotto at 147 ..... therefore the catch-weight. After seeing the fight, I don't think it would have made a difference against Cotto.



          Notice that after the Cotto fight, he is now OK with fighting at 147 since they feel that Manny can handle being the smaller guy (come in at about 144) but still do well enough to beat these guys that come in at 147 at the weigh in and much more than that at fight night.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Roach knew that it would be Cotto before Shane since Cotto is an Arum guy but that didn't mean that he didn't want no part of Shane. I think it was around the Hatton fight that Roach thought it may happen at some point (fighting Mosley). Being that Manny was still questionable at WW back then, Roach did have concerns of fighting Mosley and / or Cotto at 147 ..... therefore the catch-weight. After seeing the fight, I don't think it would have made a difference against Cotto.



            Notice that after the Cotto fight, he is now OK with fighting at 147 since they feel that Manny can handle being the smaller guy (come in at about 144) but still do well enough to beat these guys that come in at 147 at the weigh in and much more than that at fight night.
            Mosley was in the mix until he destroyed Margarito then team Pac wanted no part of him. Look at most of Pacs best wins and you'll see that most of his opponents were coming off losses/bad performances. Clever match making.

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              #26
              Originally posted by whirlwind View Post
              yeah you right. take away those title. They should fought at welterweight for Pac to have a bragging rights.
              Better yet, not fight him at all.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Mr. Blobby View Post
                Mosley was in the mix until he destroyed Margarito then team Pac wanted no part of him. Look at most of Pacs best wins and you'll see that most of his opponents were coming off losses/bad performances. Clever match making.
                Don't make the haters get to you, unless you are one of them. Roach thought there would be a possibility against Mosley down the line BUT he also knew that most probably it would be Cotto first. You think Roach didn't know that? You think that discussion with Arum didn't happen before they announced it?

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                  #28
                  Yall can hate all yall want on the Margarito fight but Pac banked $25mill+ and won a 8 division title which is something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN EVER.

                  Anyone who says they would turn down over $25mill+ and a historic accomplishment that has never and will never be done again before is a straight up liar and or moron.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bee Keepz View Post
                    135: Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, Juan Manuel Marquez
                    140: Timothy Bradley
                    147: Andre Berto, Paul Williams
                    160: Sergio Martinez
                    WOW dont forget Klits at 200+ and 126 JuanMa and 118 for donaire.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                      Yall can hate all yall want on the Margarito fight but Pac banked $25mill+ and won a 8 division title which is something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN EVER.

                      Anyone who says they would turn down over $25mill+ and a historic accomplishment that has never and will never be done again before is a straight up liar and or moron.
                      In 30 years time when they've got another division between all the ones now it will be done and surpassed.

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