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I like all these guys making excuses for whatever fighter to duck Sergio because he's bigger/taller/whatever. Pacquiao, Cotto, Mayweather, and Mosley have all fought at Junior Middleweight, yet they somehow get a pass to brush off Sergio Martinez. Michael Marley made a great point on Boxing Truth last year when he asked the question
"Did Marvin Halger say 'No, I won't fight Tommy Hearns, he's too tall?" No, he took the fight and knocked Hearns out."
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Originally posted by paulf View PostI like all these guys making excuses for whatever fighter to duck Sergio because he's bigger/taller/whatever. Pacquiao, Cotto, Mayweather, and Mosley have all fought at Junior Middleweight, yet they somehow get a pass to brush off Sergio Martinez. Michael Marley made a great point on Boxing Truth last year when he asked the question
"Did Marvin Halger say 'No, I won't fight Tommy Hearns, he's too tall?" No, he took the fight and knocked Hearns out."
Cotto, Margarito, and chavez have no excuse.
But ultimately, this is a business. As much as we want to see these guys as Greek gladiators. This is a business and Martinez is bad business for these fighters.
As far as your comment regarding Hagler.
Hearns was the fighter moving up to challenge Hagler and not the other way around.
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Originally posted by LAFIRPO View PostYou can't argue or install common sense when you are biased or delusional or hate. These elements will cloud your judgement. You really have to be analytical and use common sense.
Sergio is a great fighter and Manny is too. But they each have their own motivations and goals. Martinez wants to fight the best and get paid while doing it. Manny wants to keep rolling by knocking guys out in his own division.
Their motivation are very different, and, more importantly, they are in two different weight classes. There is no need to criticize these fighters.
Manny doesn't have to move up in weight to fight Sergio, and Sergio doesn't need to move up in weight to fight super middle weights.
Manny will probably stay at 147 and fight someone who is at 147, or some other fighter moving up from 140. Like Tim Bradley.
Sergio will keep beating middleweight contenders until one of these 154 or 160 pounders step up to the plate. I don't think think a fight with Cotto, Margarito, or Chavez is out of the question. These are big fighters so they shouldn't have trouble with the weight. The question is, are the handlers of these fighters allow them to fight Martinez? I don't think so. They will make every fight possible before fighting Martinez.
It unfortunate for Martinez, but hey, that's life.
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Martinez wants to become the number 1 P4P as he always said but calling Cotto won't help him. Even his last fight. Dzinziruk maybe good but best at 154lbs. Martinez didn't fight Dzinziruk at 154lbs. Correct me if I'm wrong. P4P is a goal, dream(for some) and a challenge for a boxer. I give much credit for him if he challenge Dzinziruk belt at 154lbs won which Dzinziruk defend for a long time and become a title holder at 160 and 154 at the same time.
Winning agaisnt Cotto at 154 is likely a money fight not to become a number 1 P4P fighter
Name calling is good when calling big names on your division and great when above of your division but make sure to beat them all.
I don't blame some posters insisting Martinez to fight Pirog/Ward or Bute anyway it was Martinez who says he wants to become a number 1 P4P boxer. I must be North
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Originally posted by paulf View PostI like all these guys making excuses for whatever fighter to duck Sergio because he's bigger/taller/whatever. Pacquiao, Cotto, Mayweather, and Mosley have all fought at Junior Middleweight, yet they somehow get a pass to brush off Sergio Martinez. Michael Marley made a great point on Boxing Truth last year when he asked the question
"Did Marvin Halger say 'No, I won't fight Tommy Hearns, he's too tall?" No, he took the fight and knocked Hearns out."
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Martinez is all wrong for Pac or Cotto... He completely destroys Pacman or Cotto... Floyd is his only threat. I think he would box Canelo silly too... Martinez looked impressive last night. He isn't winning anymore... He is destroying. For some reason I can envision a fight with Shane being fun to watch with Martinez...
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