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    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Timothy Bradley at 140 or Sergio Martinez at 154. Berto a distant third. Mosley and Marquez? Only if you're into the Richard Simmons thing.


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      Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
      Naw someone said Pac was only wanting to fight at 147, but I cant filter out the B.S on here. If the fights at WW would you rather see Bradley come up or Pac face Marquez or Mosley?
      I'd rather Bradley at 140 or Martinez at 154. I think either is feasible--I can't imagine Pacquiao having an issue with the former. But if it has to be at 147 then fight Berto...on regular HBO. I don't want to see Marquez in the ring at 140 or above. And I don't want to see Mosley in the ring against Pacquiao period.

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        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        I'd rather Bradley at 140 or Martinez at 154. I think either is feasible--I can't imagine Pacquiao having an issue with the former. But if it has to be at 147 then fight Berto...on regular HBO. I don't want to see Marquez in the ring at 140 or above. And I don't want to see Mosley in the ring against Pacquiao period.
        Me too, but I think expecting a fighter to fight simultaneously over 3 weight classes may be a bit much. Berto was the only answer I could come up with for a WW fight, just seein what everyone else thought.

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          Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
          Me too, but I think expecting a fighter to fight simultaneously over 3 weight classes may be a bit much. Berto was the only answer I could come up with for a WW fight, just seein what everyone else thought.
          The thing is...Manny is not fighting simultaneously at three weight classes. He's been the same weight for nearly two years now. It's his opponents who suffer. I'm sure Bradley would do a 144 catchweight. It should be him or Martinez and if neither, then Berto (though that doesn't excite me as much).

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            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            People need to be logical and use their brains.
            Shane Mosley had to leave Golden Boy Promotions
            as a fighter to get a fight with Manny Pacquiao.
            That just shows you how bad Arum, Roach and Manny
            wants to make the fight with Mayweather. Arum don't
            even want to deal with Oscar AT ALL. Didn't Arum
            say that he doesn't want Golden Boy as a co promoter
            for a possible Marquez fight? You guys really think
            Arum wants to deal with Golden Boy and Mayweather?
            Arum did one hell of a job trying to make Manny look
            squeaky clean in all this but we still remember this...
            What's wrong with Floyd making a phone call and sign up
            for the fight if he is interested? Why does it have to be
            Pac camp that is initiating the talks?

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              Originally posted by Mr. Truth View Post
              I like to see Pacman vs Mosley. Mayweather beat Marquez so badly that he doesn't look fit to fight at Welterweight. Let Marquez fight Berto or Cotto to test his skill first....
              Good post, I think Berto needs to prove a little bit more, even though he is a dynamic fighter right now, he needs a few more to deserve the shot at Pac. Everyone is looking to fight Pac and it would not be right if he got the shot first. JMM would be a great fight because again he has went all 12 with Pac twice and could be a great fight again, he looked strong on Saturday. I would like to see JMM and Pac again, and have Berto fight Cotto and see where we stand from there.. IMO.

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                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                The thing is...Manny is not fighting simultaneously at three weight classes. He's been the same weight for nearly two years now. It's his opponents who suffer. I'm sure Bradley would do a 144 catchweight. It should be him or Martinez and if neither, then Berto (though that doesn't excite me as much).
                Thats my point. Expecting a WW to jump up and fight the best at 154 as well as expecting him to trim down and fight the best at 140 is asking a lot. Im also kind of surprised you would suggest for him to take a catchweight fight. Im not attacking your opinion I just think he's reached the point Floyd did, its either keep moving up or take tune ups. After Berto there in absolutely nobody left at WW.

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                  Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
                  Thats my point. Expecting a WW to jump up and fight the best at 154 as well as expecting him to trim down and fight the best at 140 is asking a lot. Im also kind of surprised you would suggest for him to take a catchweight fight. Im not attacking your opinion I just think he's reached the point Floyd did, its either keep moving up or take tune ups. After Berto there in absolutely nobody left at WW.
                  I'm not expecting him to jump anywhere. If he can fight for a paper title at that weight then he can fight for the real one. But even I doubt Manny would fight Martinez and I don't blame him for not doing it. I mean, wtf, everyone's got a limit. That said, Martinez at 154 or Bradley at 140. That's that. Berto at 147 should be the third option. Truthfully, there's only one fight left for Manny and we all know what that is. But if that can't happen, I'll be damned if I have to watch Marquez/Mosley get the shot. You cherry pick for one year then you start off the next one with that? Boxing needs help.

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                    Originally posted by hitking View Post
                    My problem with Pac is that the mahjority of his major wins have come against guys coming off loses, rebuilding from loses, or lackluster perfoemances against lesser fighters. .
                    my point is you criticize pac for doing the same things floyd has done. you give excuses for floyd doing it but bash pac for it. both guys should be held to the same standard

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                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      But if that can't happen, I'll be damned if I have to watch Marquez/Mosley get the shot.
                      tell that to the people screaming for JMM to get a 3rd fight with pac. apparently after this weekend, JMM has earned the right to get killed at 147

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