So... when did Pac started using PEDS?

[ThunderWolf]

I noticed that *****s know nothing about who Manny Pacquiao is, have no idea about his beliefs, culture and upbringing. All they know is the value of money and how he could have waived millions of dollars. Well, not all people are the same, people have choices, especially when you disrepect human beings, women and children.

Pacman, whether you like is or not, is completely legal, officially or unofficially and what you think wouldn`t change that. And if you even contest that on the basis of his choices alone, then you *****s belong in a mental institution like your idol does.

[STRUGG]

i knew youd come along..............how ****** this accusation were.........

[led]

I am sick and tired of these *****s assuming Pac is on steroids/peds (I'm looking at YOU RELOADED) so I am making a thread about it.

If you guys think "Pacroid" is a fraud, then which fight did he started using PEDS?!?

Let's look at his recent fight.

Was Pac on PEDS on the Clottey fight?
I mean don't you *****s think it's a fixed fight anyway? Look at Clottey. He was constantly in his turtle shell for the majority of his fights, but once he started punching, he would hit Pac as clean as day. And it was Pac looking all bruised up by the end of the fight while Clottey looked like he didn't have a single scratch on him.

Was Pac on PEDS on the Cotto fight?
It was a magnificent fight. Everything was looking even until round 4 when Cotto started retreating and moon walking away from Pac.
Many people believed Cotto wasn't the same fighter after Marg destroyed him.

Was Pac on PEDS on the Hatton fight?
This fight was short lived. Hatton kept WALKING straight into Pac's punches.
Hatton was aware that Pac is now a complete fighter and that knew that Pac now uses his right arm more.
More so that he forgot that Pac's best arsenal is still his left arm.

Was Pac on PEDS on the De La Hoya fight?
Oscar got his ass handed to him that night and he quit while he was at his corner. Many people think Pac would lose this fight because Oscar is way to big for him.
After the fight, Pac's critics now said that Oscar weight drained himself and it was his own fault. Some hardcore *****s to this day thinks this fight is fixed.

So yea, WHICH IS IT?!
Before Ariza came to work for Team Pacquiao, Pac was dominating his opponents in a good'ol action-PACed style boxing.

Now "*****s", which fight did Pac started using PEDS?
I am very curious.

peds started when jealousy and cowardice among the mayweathers began.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Accually JLC did beat Floyd that night.... So what are you saying?
Yet you have not really said anythiing besides spewing emmotion based deflections to my facts...

But,

The HBO team said Jose Luis won.


Thats the basis of your argument,

"The HBO team said".

So, which way to you want to go with this?

They either tell the facts, or they don't?

[cixthree]

What are these excuses he gave?

Not Bob, not Freddie, not Alex, not Michael,

but Manny.

What excuses did Manny give?

Well one was... "14 days will affect my heavy training..."

[2120]

Until he ran away from blood tests, anything anyone said held little weight. It was when he refused blood tests, followed by the ridiculous excuses by he and his camp is when people began to give peds more thought.

Exactly! havent been a fan of floyd since he was at lightweight. its irrelevant how is asking for the drug tests. bottom line is a fighter (pac) is turning down the a career high payday because he doesnt want to take drug test.
that doesnt make him guilty but opens him up to su****ions

his demands are

8oz glove
50 50 split
10 million for every pound over 147

lemme repeat what i said in another thread:



as "running away from the OST"
As I said before, it INSULTS him. Why does he have to take more tests than any other active boxer? Floyd is singling him out. And besides Pac agreed to 7 days. And another blood test right after the fight. It doesnt sound like a person guilty of using PEDS.
The reason he doesn't want his blood drawn close to the fight is the first Morales fight.

why should it insult him? if anything its a complement. the so called p4p king floyd mayweather is threaten by him (pac) recent success over common opponents and cotto a opponent he chose not to fight (duck?) so much so that he thinks he has to be using ped's. if anything the random blood test pulls back the curtain and shows us how much of a threat pac is to floyd.

what i dont get is the need for cut off dates. if you are clean take the damn test and make the buttloads of money that come off with this mega fight

[cixthree]

But,

The HBO team said Jose Luis won.


Thats the basis of your argument,

"The HBO team said".

So, which way to you want to go with this?

They either tell the facts, or they don't?

Are you even reading these comments?
You have yet to do anything besides deflect and answer questions with questions....

My base is this...
Mannys drastic change, both witnessing it and paying attention to how this could happen.
Mannys stance on and reasons/excuses for not just taking FULL RANDOM DRUG TESTS.. If it were turned around, I doubt you'd be soo understanding...

[Reloaded]

I noticed that *****s know nothing about who Manny Pacquiao is, have no idea about his beliefs, culture and upbringing. All they know is the value of money and how he could have waived millions of dollars. Well, not all people are the same, people have choices, especially when you disrepect human beings, women and children.

Pacman, whether you like is or not, is completely legal, officially or unofficially and what you think wouldn`t change that. And if you even contest that on the basis of his choices alone, then you *****s belong in a mental institution like your idol does.

How does that make him above cheating to be given a free pass because you dislike the opponet that asked him , your very gullible ,, he cheated on his wife didnt he , yet he could not possible cheat for fame fotune and everything he is , work backwards ****** , his whole life is a by product of boxing , without the fame he acquired from media coverage of boxing he would not be anything , could he not possibly cheat , I guarentee you if you had a gun to your head and was asked you would not take the gamble .

All that has been asked is a test to stop cheating that both participants must take , not one both , and you bunch of ***wits go on about **** that has nothing to do with whats been asked , its not Manny and Floyd ,,, A and B are going to fight each other , now work it out based on whats right and wrong .

You kids are ***ed in the head !

[2120]

peds started when jealousy and cowardice among the mayweathers began.

Agree!

pac should have taken the random blood test and then done us a favor of beating the snot out of floyd

[Reloaded]

But,

The HBO team said Jose Luis won.


Thats the basis of your argument,

"The HBO team said".

So, which way to you want to go with this?

They either tell the facts, or they don't?

Who ***en cares , Floyd did the right thing and fought the guy straight up in a rematch what is the matter with you ***en idiots .