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    #81
    Originally posted by Johnny Chingas View Post
    How did he "jump up in weight so easily" when he was weighing in on fight night in the 140s even back when he was at superfeatherweight?
    Yeah, at welterweight, De La Hoya weighs in 160+ on fight night and in between fights. That should mean he could jump up to 160 and knock people out, retain his speed and power, and he should be able to take punches better than he does at here at welterweight, right?

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      #82
      Originally posted by cixthree View Post
      You just hung yourself....
      How is Manny a 126er but now he's a 150er now? And better? Stop it, just stop it
      This was a bad response. We r talking about back when he was fighting Morales at 130. That's like saying, "How was I an 8lb baby when I'm currently 189lbs?"

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        #83
        Originally posted by ThunderWolf View Post
        So you assume I`m a child?

        World class athletes follow the rules of their world class organizations, and not the rules of their opponent.
        Geez you talk utter dribble !


        I think your rubber dolls of your idol and childish thinking might give you away , cant figure why so many of you kids are ashamed of your age , goes to all the fakeness I suppose ,,,,

        Anyway you failed badly about Manny sticking to rules , he got to be best for breaking official rules and forcing opponets under official weight to defend their own title lol .

        CW , 8oz gloves in a 154 fight thats mandated at 10 oz ,, 154 belts at 151 lol Manny been putting clauses on fighters since Morales ,,,

        And Manny was asked one concession just one and ran for the hills and Clotty , and then ran for them hills again with cheato rather than take a cheat test ,,,

        Piss off with all your bull**** child and go and play with your rubber dolls .

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          #84
          Originally posted by JDezi4 View Post
          The thought is Pac started when he started jumping up in weight so easily retaining his speed and power (possibly increasing his power). He is literally the only one in the history of boxing to do this. Not even Ray Robinson, Leonard, Mosley, Roy Jones, etc could do it. U have to admit, it may not be roids, but it's has to be some kinda special vitamins or something.

          Now for anyone to sit there and say that he ABSOLUTELY IS on roids, they're just hating. But it's the same kinda people that think Floyd beat his x-gf, and that Tyson ****d that woman, and that Michael Jackson touched those kids. They don't know, it's non of their business, why not wait till the evidence pops up.
          Actually he has lost his speed. Watch some training clips when he was at 126, 130 to 147.

          In the ring he will look faster vs bigger guys because small guys are fast too.

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            #85
            Originally posted by FirePunch View Post
            Delahoya fight .

            Come on the dude came from having toe to toe wars with the little dudes to suddenly 1 punch Ko artist with the welterweights
            Erm oscar quit, not dropped.

            Cotto was stopped by ref, he didn't plain get ko'd.

            Clottey lasted..

            Jmm has never been stopped.

            Barerra and morales are hof

            Pac back in the days simply came forward abd threw punches, he didn't usr his brain.

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              #86
              Originally posted by abdiel2k3 View Post
              my 1st ever hearren of pac and urine test were way back since he fought MAB
              i rem they later talked bout it on some tvshow
              bout how when they seen his pee test they thought for sure he had failed cuz his piss was an odd cola-ish kinda color
              but he passed the test so not much else was thought
              but those are the kinda test that only test for certain stuff
              That could be severe dehydration. He use to rehydrate 13 or so pounds, so it is possible. Search for a dehydration chart, you can see the colours.

              Most humans go yellowy champaygne, but we don't cut down any weight.

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                #87
                Originally posted by PainKiller View Post
                Actually he has lost his speed. Watch some training clips when he was at 126, 130 to 147.

                In the ring he will look faster vs bigger guys because small guys are fast too.
                Considering the huge jump in weight, he didn't look slow enough. That said, it doesn't explain the power. That also said, I already said I don't think he's using anything. I just said the idea is by no means crazy.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by cixthree View Post
                  It's pretty obvious you havent been watching or paying attention to this sport for very long.
                  Do a little research, put the puzzle 2gether then open your ears and eyes.

                  Clue #1... The fight before David Diaz (I forget who it was). But listen to the HBO announcer.. "You are witnessing the DECLINE"...

                  Clue #2... His very next fight (Alex has now joined the team).. Listen to the HBO announcers.............

                  From that point on, Team Pac has never looked back.. I know it's hard to believe, but to a person who pays attention it's harder to not question.

                  Clue #3... This whole circus is over 1 man wanting a full random drug test, and the other not wanting full random drug test..
                  Pussh all the BullShyt to the side and just look at the puzzle. By doing that, and not mixing emmotion you can simply not avoid atleast questioning if it's true...
                  i like your sig, i know u know that floyd is a coward.

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                    #89
                    Since it has never been proven....my answer is never....

                    Innocent until proven guilty....

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                      #90
                      when did pac started using PEDS?!

                      the time floyd pissed on his pants and told his daddy that someone is out there ready to kill him

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