So... when did Pac started using PEDS?

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You should watch the Manny Pac piece on Biography, clearly he started using PEDs at the tender age of 12, look at how big his head was back then compared to his body!

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[ny123]

If he is on them i would assume when Ariza came into his camp.

[JDezi4]

The thought is Pac started when he started jumping up in weight so easily retaining his speed and power (possibly increasing his power). He is literally the only one in the history of boxing to do this. Not even Ray Robinson, Leonard, Mosley, Roy Jones, etc could do it. U have to admit, it may not be roids, but it's has to be some kinda special vitamins or something.

Now for anyone to sit there and say that he ABSOLUTELY IS on roids, they're just hating. But it's the same kinda people that think Floyd beat his x-gf, and that Tyson ****d that woman, and that Michael Jackson touched those kids. They don't know, it's non of their business, why not wait till the evidence pops up.

[lfc19titles]

The thought is Pac started when he started jumping up in weight so easily retaining his speed and power (possibly increasing his power). He is literally the only one in the history of boxing to do this. Not even Ray Robinson, Leonard, Mosley, Roy Jones, etc could do it. U have to admit, it may not be roids, but it's has to be some kinda special vitamins or something.

Not for anyone to sit there and say that he ABSOLUTELY IS on roids, they're just hating. But it's the same kinda people that think Floyd beat his x-gf, and that Tyson ****d that woman, and that Michael Jackson touched those kids. They don't know, it's non of their business, why not weight till the evidence pops up.

pac has gotten slower since he went up to 147, compare pac at 130 or 135 to 147

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You don't have to be a "*****" to have su****ions about Pac.

Myself, I felt something might be up when Pac's team made a big deal out of a drug test. Something that only makes the sport better.

[JDezi4]

pac has gotten slower since he went up to 147, compare pac at 130 or 135 to 147

I don't see it. His left hand was more explosive, but that's only becuz that was all he had. Now that he has a right hand he's less explosive and more just quick handed, and I haven't seen any drastic difference.

[FirePunch]

Delahoya fight .

Come on the dude came from having toe to toe wars with the little dudes to suddenly 1 punch Ko artist with the welterweights

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Delahoya fight .

Come on the dude came from having toe to toe wars with the little dudes to suddenly 1 punch Ko artist with the welterweights

Pac wasn't an intelligent fighter back when he was having his toe to toe wars with the little dudes.

Floyd fans have more than one answer. It depends on what the thread is about.
Sometimes they get confused and give 2 answers for the same thread.

Examples:

1 - To discredit the Margo vs Manny fight, they say that Margo has no chance in hell. Manny is too fast, too versatile, too skillful.....

2 - This summer there was word that Manny vs Cotto was possible. They discredited that one too BUT when there were rumors that Floyd went to meet Cotto on possible fight some of the same Floyd fans were so so happy. "A dream come true" ...... lol!

2 - If Manny loses, they make threads to tell Manny fans to not make excuses if Manny does lose..... but how can Manny lose if according to my point 1, Margo has no chance in hell of winning this fight.

3 - Manny is on ROIDs and Margo is BRICKLESS. So there is the point that Manny has never been tested positive for PEDs but that doesn't stop a Floyd fan. According to Floyd fans, only Floyd can dominate legitimately but don't discuss with them those hand numbing drugs.....

4 - Manny's fight is fixed. ..... but as point 1 states, if Floyd fans say that Margo has no chance in hell, why go thru the the dangerous road of fixing the fight?



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see that's excatly what i'm talking about. WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO BELIEVE?!
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The thought is Pac started when he started jumping up in weight so easily retaining his speed and power (possibly increasing his power). He is literally the only one in the history of boxing to do this. Not even Ray Robinson, Leonard, Mosley, Roy Jones, etc could do it. U have to admit, it may not be roids, but it's has to be some kinda special vitamins or something.

That's why Pac is amazing. He's still a student of boxing and he is willing to learn to be the best of the best.
As I said before, when the impossible becomes possible, it is a natural human instinct that we find reasons as to why.
That's why excuses like his opponents came off from losses, they were shot, they were weight drained, he's on PEDS, and fixed fights started.

Mosley and Roy Jones jr were proven to have used PEDS yet they havent accomplished wat Pac did in the ring.
You can't just magically give a boxer PEDS and expect him to be #1 P4P overnight.

[JDezi4]

Pac wasn't an intelligent fighter back when he was having his toe to toe wars with the little dudes.



see that's excatly what i'm talking about. WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO BELIEVE?!
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That's why Pac is amazing. He's still a student of boxing and he is willing to learn to be the best of the best.
As I said before, when the impossible becomes possible, it is a natural human instinct that we find reasons as to why.
That's why excuses like his opponents came off from losses, they were shot, they were weight drained, he's on PEDS, and fixed fights started.

Mosley and Roy Jones jr were proven to have used PEDS yet they havent accomplished wat Pac did in the ring.
You can't just magically give a boxer PEDS and expect him to be #1 P4P overnight.

He'll never be the best of the best.... just pointing that out.

And I really don't get this argument. Please reiterate.

[Mayas]

I am sick and tired of these *****s assuming Pac is on steroids/peds (I'm looking at YOU RELOADED) so I am making a thread about it.

If you guys think "Pacroid" is a fraud, then which fight did he started using PEDS?!?

Let's look at his recent fight.

Was Pac on PEDS on the Clottey fight?
I mean don't you *****s think it's a fixed fight anyway? Look at Clottey. He was constantly in his turtle shell for the majority of his fights, but once he started punching, he would hit Pac as clean as day. And it was Pac looking all bruised up by the end of the fight while Clottey looked like he didn't have a single scratch on him.

Was Pac on PEDS on the Cotto fight?
It was a magnificent fight. Everything was looking even until round 4 when Cotto started retreating and moon walking away from Pac.
Many people believed Cotto wasn't the same fighter after Marg destroyed him.

Was Pac on PEDS on the Hatton fight?
This fight was short lived. Hatton kept WALKING straight into Pac's punches.
Hatton was aware that Pac is now a complete fighter and that knew that Pac now uses his right arm more.
More so that he forgot that Pac's best arsenal is still his left arm.

Was Pac on PEDS on the De La Hoya fight?
Oscar got his ass handed to him that night and he quit while he was at his corner. Many people think Pac would lose this fight because Oscar is way to big for him.
After the fight, Pac's critics now said that Oscar weight drained himself and it was his own fault. Some hardcore *****s to this day thinks this fight is fixed.

So yea, WHICH IS IT?!
Before Ariza came to work for Team Pacquiao, Pac was dominating his opponents in a good'ol action-PACed style boxing.

Now "*****s", which fight did Pac started using PEDS?
I am very curious.

Since Pac turned pro, he's been using PED's.

first A-Side Meth, which is easily available in the phillipines.
then standard steroids in the late 1999-2002.
then EPO Steroids/Hormones in 2004-2006
now, he uses newer strains of designer EPO steroids.