Comments Thread For: Paul Williams: "I'll Go To 147 For Mayweather, Pacquiao"

[daairupthur13]

Not Pac, but close enough...

Buboy: "But after Margarito, there are many more competitive fights out there for Manny. Andre Berto, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Paul Williams are tough opponents. Of course, there’s Floyd Mayweather, too. Manny will beat them all. This is his time.”

anybdoy can say anything dosnt make it true..acions speak louder then words and from manny's actions he will be fighting another top rank fighter. i will believe that until i see otherwise

[ThePrince]

anybdoy can say anything dosnt make it true..acions speak louder then words and from manny's actions he will be fighting another top rank fighter. i will believe that until i see otherwise

What Top Rank fighters are out there for Manny to fight in May? Arum has been on the record several times that Cotto-Chavez is the target for next spring, he's smart enough to know that it's still too early for Pacquiao-Cotto II and Miguel still has doubters that think he's done so KOing a big name fighter with a 43-0 record will make it much more attractive to the casual viewer. And if by some miracle Jr wins, then you have another blockbuster and easy fight for Manny in the fall, but that's where Pacquiao vs Cotto/Chavez winner will be- in the fall. Pac needs an opponent for May, no TR fighters will be available then.

Pac has fought 3 straight TR fighters, but before that he fought a bunch of GB stock in a row, like 5 or 6, so stop with that 'he only fights TR fighters ****. Arum, Roach, Buboy have all mentioned Williams as a possibility. Paul requested a CW w/ Martinez so he can have an easier time making 147 for his next fight. It makes perfect sense and Pac has shown he is willing to take risks against guys who dwarf him. IMO, Margarito is more dangerous than Williams for Pac.

[FLY TY]

If Paul was fighting at 160 and had Floyd or Manny blown up to a 157 catchweight and then came in at 160 anyway, then yeah, you'd have an apt comparison

Williams is offering to drain himself to 147 to fight them, did Floyd offer to go down to 135 to fight Marquez?

when you're the king of the hill, you don't have to "offer to go down" to fight somebody.

it's funny to me how ppl praise this dude for offering to go down in weight FOR THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF HIS LIFE, THE BIGGEST PAYDAYS HE'LL EVER MAKE.....that's what he's supposed to do. it'd be laughable, but it's more headline-worthy for paul to say, "mayweather and pacquiao should move up to fight him."


this here is not news. who WOULDN'T go down 7 lbs. to fight smaller guys, that'll offer you the biggest pay? but IMO williams needs to focus on 11/20, b/c he loses that one, he can forget about mayweather or pacquiao.

[MiguelDirrell25]

Man dis ****a is a freak of nature he's 6'3 I'm also that height and weigh 180 and look slim I mean I couldn't imagine me being 147 I was that weight when I was like 15 also the lowest I've been down 2 is 165 and looked anorexic skinny so they should do sum investigation cause there's no way a grown as5 man that tall could be 147 ,I kno he probably walks around at 170 180 at least

[ThePrince]

when you're the king of the hill, you don't have to "offer to go down" to fight somebody.

it's funny to me how ppl praise this dude for offering to go down in weight FOR THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF HIS LIFE, THE BIGGEST PAYDAYS HE'LL EVER MAKE.....that's what he's supposed to do. it'd be laughable, but it's more headline-worthy for paul to say, "mayweather and pacquiao should move up to fight him."

I was referencing someone's attempt to equate Mayweather having Marquez go up 2 divisions for a catchweight but coming in over anyway with Williams going DOWN 2 divisions for the fight. I wasn't praising anyone, just exposing flawed logic.

this here is not news. who WOULDN'T go down 7 lbs. to fight smaller guys, that'll offer you the biggest pay? but IMO williams needs to focus on 11/20, b/c he loses that one, he can forget about mayweather or pacquiao.

Win or lose it doesn't matter, as long as he doesn't get KTFO or dominated. Martinez lost and he was rewarded by Arum/Top Rank with a shot at the lineal MW championship which he won. If Williams-Martinez is another classic, close fight and Martinez wins by close decision, it won't have an impact on a possible Pacquiao-Williams fight. They'd be tied 1-1 and they can shelf the rubber match like they did part II.

Of course the usual haters will cry 'Pacquiao fighting only damaged goods again!', 'Paul drained himself!'

But only after Pac KOs him brutally within 6 rounds, before that Williams will be the favorite and there will be many on his bandwagon.

[switchsouthpaw]

If Paul was fighting at 160 and had Floyd or Manny blown up to a 157 catchweight and then came in at 160 anyway, then yeah, you'd have an apt comparison

Williams is offering to drain himself to 147 to fight them, did Floyd offer to go down to 135 to fight Marquez?

Well played sir...well played.

[FLY TY]

I was referencing someone's attempt to equate Mayweather having Marquez go up 2 divisions for a catchweight but coming in over anyway with Williams going DOWN 2 divisions for the fight. I wasn't praising anyone, just exposing flawed logic.




Win or lose it doesn't matter, as long as he doesn't get KTFO or dominated. Martinez lost and he was rewarded by Arum/Top Rank with a shot at the lineal MW championship which he won. If Williams-Martinez is another classic, close fight and Martinez wins by close decision, it won't have an impact on a possible Pacquiao-Williams fight. They'd be tied 1-1 and they can shelf the rubber match like they did part II.

Of course the usual haters will cry 'Pacquiao fighting only damaged goods again!', 'Paul drained himself!'

But only after Pac KOs him brutally within 6 rounds, before that Williams will be the favorite and there will be many on his bandwagon.

the difference here, is that martinez lost a very close, disputable decision to williams, in a fight he didn't have a full camp to prepare for.

i think it will be a great fight, but IMO, martinez is the better overall fighter, and should beat williams decisively this time....especially if williams is already looking ahead.

despite what uncle bob says, williams-pacquiao will NEVER happen. arum said as much before. he says he doesn't build his fighters' names up, to have them compete in big fights with unknown fighters promoted by other guys. there's a reason why margarito can get KTFO, come back and not look impressive, in beating a nobody, then get a fight with pacquiao. not that easy for williams tho. he'd have to beat martinez, get lucky enough to get a fight with cotto, beat him, then we can talk pacquiao-williams.....maybe.

[al-Xander]

when you're the king of the hill, you don't have to "offer to go down" to fight somebody.

it's funny to me how ppl praise this dude for offering to go down in weight FOR THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF HIS LIFE, THE BIGGEST PAYDAYS HE'LL EVER MAKE.....that's what he's supposed to do. it'd be laughable, but it's more headline-worthy for paul to say, "mayweather and pacquiao should move up to fight him."

When you're the King of the hill, people down below who
want your throne should be willing to play your game not
the other way around. I agree. And that should be standard.
King Pacquiao and King Mayweather don't have go down below
just to prove something. If you want the throne, either drain
yourself or blow yourself up to get to the King's level for the
crown. And when you capture the throne, do the same thing.




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[ThePrince]

the difference here, is that martinez lost a very close, disputable decision to williams, in a fight he didn't have a full camp to prepare for.

i think it will be a great fight, but IMO, martinez is the better overall fighter, and should beat williams decisively this time....especially if williams is already looking ahead.

I agree, Martinez is the better fighter and he was tagging Paul with every right hook he threw... but he has a tendency to tire in the middle rounds and lets opponents back into the fight, did it the first Williams fight, did it against Pavlik. He's not a young man, he's what, 35 or 36? His stamina is an issue and if he fades in the middle again, it will be another closely contested fight.

despite what uncle bob says, williams-pacquiao will NEVER happen. arum said as much before. he says he doesn't build his fighters' names up, to have them compete in big fights with unknown fighters promoted by other guys. there's a reason why margarito can get KTFO, come back and not look impressive, in beating a nobody, then get a fight with pacquiao. not that easy for williams tho. he'd have to beat martinez, get lucky enough to get a fight with cotto, beat him, then we can talk pacquiao-williams.....maybe.

Again...

Manny Pacquiao-Antonio Margarito? Arum says never...

And he never said it won't happen this time, he just said he wants to see how Manny does against a much bigger opponent first in Margarito (whom he said he would never allow to fight Pac just last year).

Since we already know Paul is easy to hit and southpaws can tag him at will, it will just come down to how Pac looks fighting against an active pressure fighter with great stamina who dwarfs him.

If Pacquiao-Margarito looks like Pacquiao-DLH, then might as well put Pacquiao-Williams on your calendar 2011 on May 1st

[joseph5620]

the difference here, is that martinez lost a very close, disputable decision to williams, in a fight he didn't have a full camp to prepare for.i think it will be a great fight, but IMO, martinez is the better overall fighter, and should beat williams decisively this time....especially if williams is already looking ahead.

despite what uncle bob says, williams-pacquiao will NEVER happen. arum said as much before. he says he doesn't build his fighters' names up, to have them compete in big fights with unknown fighters promoted by other guys. there's a reason why margarito can get KTFO, come back and not look impressive, in beating a nobody, then get a fight with pacquiao. not that easy for williams tho. he'd have to beat martinez, get lucky enough to get a fight with cotto, beat him, then we can talk pacquiao-williams.....maybe.

Neither fighter had a full camp to prepare for the other. I see this myth floating around quite a bit. That somehow Williams was preparing for Martinez the whole time. Williams was preparing for Pavlik who fights nothing like Martinez. Neither fighter had an advantage. They were both training for different fights and styles .