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    Mayweather vs Pacquiao is the biggest and best fight out there. But it's not the only fight out there. Personally I'd rather see PBF vs PW next. It wouldn't gross as much as Pac floyd but with a 24/7 at least 1.5 mil. I don't think PW can safely make 147lbs anymore though. His frame seems to have filled out a little. He would be smarter to take over MW.

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      Originally posted by MR. V View Post
      ***in exacly, dogg. dumass Hoya passed the money torch to this ****** rat. just like he did with pacman. but pacman aint that ***** rat, like floyd tho. nevertheless, neither of these fiters were making money the way they are now before they fought HOYA. floyd talks about how much money he makes, but he aint **** without his daddy, DE LA HOya. Hoya gets money off all his fites now. Floyd is Hoyas's **********. Cmon Hoya, put that ***** to work on your GBP corner.
      Dude, you're an idiot!!! Why didn't Bernard, Felix, Vargas, Mayorga, Gatti and Quartey go one to make big money? They all fought Oscar. Oscar over hyped ass don't have **** to do with anything. Floyd and Pac got their own star power.

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        Originally posted by slindee3 View Post
        Dude, you're an idiot!!! Why didn't Bernard, Felix, Vargas, Mayorga, Gatti and Quartey go one to make big money? They all fought Oscar. Oscar over hyped ass don't have **** to do with anything. Floyd and Pac got their own star power.
        Point is before Oscar their star power wasn't shining.

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          Originally posted by flexxx145 View Post
          Mayweather vs Pacquiao is the biggest and best fight out there. But it's not the only fight out there. Personally I'd rather see PBF vs PW next. It wouldn't gross as much as Pac floyd but with a 24/7 at least 1.5 mil. I don't think PW can safely make 147lbs anymore though. His frame seems to have filled out a little. He would be smarter to take over MW.
          Would you like to see PWill vs Pac?

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            Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge View Post
            Floyd's trying to make it even harder for the fight to be made. That ***** doesnt want Pac. First,OST. Now,who gets bigger piece of the pie.

            Floyd's an undefeated,multiple time champion,american boxer fighting in America. He's supposed to do bigger numbers than Manny. Manny/Marquez in the phillipines > Mayweather/Marquez in the phillipines. It's absolute common sense. I guess all floyd knows is boxing.

            Oh how I miss the days where the best fought the best. It wasnt about the $$$$$ or ****ing drug tests. If Pac is such easy work for floyd,quit making it so damn hard for it to happen. If I were Manny,who is set for life financially, I would tell floyd to **** off. Manny should continue to go after the real welters floyd either ducked or hasnt fought yet. Manny vs Margarito,Cotto 2,Mosley,or Berto would still make Manny at least $10-15 million. **** floyd!!
            If all Pac cares about is being financially well off (and refuses to cave to Mayweathers demands) then I have no problem with your argument.

            But if he cares about his legacy then your advice falls short.

            A Mayweather win this saturday against the fighter that Pac's trainer has gone on record as saying that he won't allow Pac to fight because he is "too good" doesn't fare well for Pac in the history books.

            History will always remember Pac as one of the best fighters of his era. He will be remembered for his exciting style and his willingness to always go for the knock-out.

            He will also be remembered for never facing the other best fighter in his era.... having turned down the opportunity because he didn't agree with additional testing measures that were just begining to take place in the sport of boxing to clean it up. History will remember Pac of being suspected as an unclean fighter but in the end nothing was ever proven. After passing on the fight that could have defined his career as a potential all time great, Pac went on to fight others that didn't require him to test and ended up leaving the sport at the exact same time that the sport of boxing was cleaning out fighters using PED's.

            Forget this forum, forget about our thoughts or ideas or positions. In the end only history's judgment of Pac will stand...... and if Pac cares at all about that..... only he has the ability to do anything about it.
            Last edited by tacoboxer; 04-29-2010, 12:39 PM.

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              Originally posted by snd_dsigner_dan View Post
              He does speak English, the problem is that it's broken.
              He is actually more coherent than all of the Mayweathers combined lol and English isn't his native language, not sure if it's the Mayweathers either.

              Of course Floyd will sell more, he has a better dance partner with name recognition and value. Clottey isn't even recognized in his own promotional outfit. I wonder what numbers Floyd would have pulled if he had fought Clottey? Floyd couldn't even do any numbers with Baldomir who held a title at the time, until he met a guy by the name of Oscar De La Hoya. Mayweather/Mosley also have the added advertising benefit of HBO 24/7...which is probably the most interesting concept behind sports marketing.
              Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 04-29-2010, 11:03 AM.

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                Originally posted by madsweeney View Post
                Point is before Oscar their star power wasn't shining.
                Alright , I'm gonna concede. Oscar was the cash cow at the time those two fought him, but they had to have something different than the other fighters I mentioned to go one to be able to command so much money.

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                  So mayweather is the cash cow???? Hmmmm.... I wonder if they take out canelo from the card how the numbers would be???... Man I can't wait for the fight leaving tomorrow to vegas I'? be the one with the big mexican flag cheering canelo... This fight would do good numbers but take canelo out and u have boxing after dark... Sad to say that goooooo mayweather!!!!!

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                    Originally posted by puromexicano View Post
                    So mayweather is the cash cow???? Hmmmm.... I wonder if they take out canelo from the card how the numbers would be???... Man I can't wait for the fight leaving tomorrow to vegas I'? be the one with the big mexican flag cheering canelo... This fight would do good numbers but take canelo out and u have boxing after dark... Sad to say that goooooo mayweather!!!!!
                    I guarantee you if Mayweather had a no name dance partner, with no HBO 24/7...he couldn't and wouldn't do over 700,000 buys. In fact I'd bet the house now in his next fight if it's against a no name fighter, he won't pass 700,000 buys.

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                      If they fight, it should be 50-50. Like Manny Steward said after Pac beat the **** out of Cotto, "he has earned it".

                      Just look at Pac's last 3 fights, win over Hatton, Cotto, and Clottey. All top 10 in their weight division.

                      I am really not into a debate on "who is the better draw" or "who is the PPV" attraction. The fact is that Mayweather is an American and the US is the mecca for mega boxing events. But if you want to compare PBF-JM Marquez and Pac-Cotto, Pac did better. There are only about 2 million Pinoys in the US and about less or the same to the Puerto RIcans. Compare that to PBF who is fighting in his country, then JMM with the backing of over 10 million Mexicans heritage in the US. That say something about the draw of Pacquiao. How many of those who got the PPV are non-Pinoys or non-Puerto Ricans for the Pac-Cotto fight.

                      With Clottey, Pac draw 700,000 ppv by himself, filled up a football stadium. From an article in the Ring mag on that fight, HBO predicted about 400,000 buy, basing it on a top fighter agaisnt a not so popular fighter.

                      The only reason Mayweather is fighting Mosley is due to Berto backing out due to the Haiti earthquake. But before that, Matthew Hatton, Paul Malinangi, and Nate Campbell are being reported as his next opponents. Do you really think PBF will sell a lot of PPV fighting those fighters, meaning over 1 million. The only fighter i can see in the 3 fighters mentioned that can do good on PPV is Malinangay cuz he has a fan based more than those 2 here in the US and Paul's image.

                      When Mosley-PBF was in the talks, you already can figure it out that it will sell more than Pac-Clottey fight. Both are Americans. Shane has been known for awhile already, since the days of his wins over Dela Hoya. Shane does not have the following of Dela Hoya or PBF, but its 10x better than Clottey.

                      Pac knows he has earn a 50 split and will not want to go lower than that. Pac does not need PBF, even if Pac make less, he will still get a lot of money fighting other fighters. I am not saying Pac will not budge on a less purse split, its just my opinion on how on the split negotiations will go.

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