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    #51
    Originally posted by FaustoGeraci;8009167[QUOTE
    ]Floyd Mayweather is the one that is so scared of the opposing fighter that he is demanding testing outside of the sanctioning bodies control, for the first time in combat sports history. Every other fighter in the world follows the same commisions sanctions, and every other fighter in the world would face Pacquiao according to said rules. Not bring in more because he scares the **** out of the fighter to the point that the fighter believes he HAS TO BE ON THE DOPE.
    I'm so tired of this debate. First of all, Floyd Mayweather isn't the first to ask for extra testing and he won't be the last. Let me ask you two things:

    1. What would have happened if Pacquiao agreed to the testing?

    2. What were his reasons for recanting after initially agreeing?

    Also, it said they stop BLOOD testing 30 days prior, continue with URINE tests throughout the event, and have another BLOOD test immediately after the athletes events.
    Specifically, who stops testing blood 30 days prior? Who conducts these tests?

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      #52
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Why does that matter? Do I ask what you do for a living?
      Haha don't be chirppy mate I'm just askin!

      Coz you speak too much about people not knowing about how these testings goes, so i figured you might be in the business coz you speak so highly of yourself to refute what other people say, even if they already stated facts like the TS who even had that "pamphlet".

      So if you're not in the business then all good! Why you all sudden get sensitive n' ****?

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        #53
        The thing your completely off about is when Tests can be detected or not.

        You are also completely off about when they take the tests. It's well documented olympic athletes, and Tour De France athletes were tested the morning of competitions.

        BTW.. You really haven't posted any facts.. Your talking pretty much entirely out your ass. I have yet to even see one source. Care to share some? Didnt think so.

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          #54
          Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post
          It's sad. They come into a thread I made and demand I provide facts which I already have. Then they demand I provide their own arguments with some ammunition because they clearly have none. Hilarious.
          Indeed.

          How about posting a digital copy of that pamphlet as i'm curious too regarding this OST.

          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          I don't care about who has the greater legacy or who is scared of whom. I'm not caught up in that fan BS. Manny Pacquiao is scared of testing, not Floyd Mayweather. And what proof have you provided? Are you so gullible as to believe that WADA stops testing athletes THIRTY DAYS BEFORE AN EVENT? Really?
          Why not post a credible link here pointing against those facts cited by the TS instead saying Pac is scared, etc...

          I don't like Pac personally either just like floyd but i like how Pac conducts himself in the ring unlike floyd which leaves me wanting and felt being robbed in broad daylight.

          Everyone of us here wants to see the truth and not just baseless accusations.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View Post
            Haha don't be chirppy mate I'm just askin!

            Coz you speak too much about people not knowing about how these testings goes, so i figured you might be in the business coz you speak so highly of yourself to refute what other people say, even if they already stated facts like the TS who even had that "pamphlet".

            So if you're not in the business then all good! Why you all sudden get sensitive n' ****?
            How do I speak highly of myself when you don't know who I am or what I do?

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              #56
              double post.

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                #57
                Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post
                It is being unbiased to point out that Mayweather thinks he is bigger than the sport. He is the only combat sports athlete in history that thinks he can demand testing that the athletic commission in a state which he lives in does not. That's like a the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys demanding the opposing QB undergoes a different test outside the NFL rules before the Superbowl or they don't show up and play. It's ridiculous.
                First of all this is Boxing, and the contracts may allow for special demands that fighters may agree or not...SSM accepted, why PAC canīt?...Agree to something in between and make the fight.

                Bigger than the sport?, that is a lame Roach argument...

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                  #58
                  Pac's 30 days cut-off was resonable. HGH can be detected even with 30 day cut-off. Here's the proof:


                  Growth hormone test set
                  By From Wire Services | July 29, 2004

                  Olympic athletes in Athens will be tested for the banned stimulant human growth hormone for the first time following research at a British university, **** Pound, head of the World Anti-Doping Agency, said.

                  "Up until now we've never had a test reliable enough that we were prepared to use," Pound said in a televised Bloomberg News interview.

                  The test, formulated by researchers at Southampton University in southern England and developed at laboratories in Germany, Australia, and the United States, will be carried out on urine and blood samples taken from athletes.

                  The hormone, which stimulates the growth of muscles and bones, was added to the International Olympic Committee's list of banned substances in 1989 and has remained undetectable until now. Last week, the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne, Switzerland, cleared Australian sprint cyclist Sean Eadie of trying to import the substance in 1998 and '99.

                  Tests carried out at an anti-doping laboratory in Athens will reveal if an athlete has taken the drug in the past 36 hours. The samples will then undergo a second analysis that will show if it has been taken up to 84 days before the Olympics.
                  "We've got something that not only detects it but will go back a considerable period of time and pick up people who have taken it before and are getting the benefit of it now," Pound said.

                  Clare Hartley of the Southampton University team that has worked on the test since 1997 said human growth hormone benefits athletes by turning fat into muscle. It increases energy levels and helps them recover from injuries. "The International Olympic Committee has wanted this for a long time," she said.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by PAKYO View Post
                    Indeed.

                    How about posting a digital copy of that pamphlet as i'm curious too regarding this OST.



                    Why not post a credible link here pointing against those facts cited by the TS instead saying Pac is scared, etc...

                    I don't like Pac personally either just like floyd but i like how Pac conducts himself in the ring unlike floyd which leaves me wanting and felt being robbed in broad daylight.

                    Everyone of us here wants to see the truth and not just baseless accusations.
                    Who said I don't like Pac? I have no issues with Pac personally. but I know a lie when I hear one and bull**** when I smell it. If you'd like to rifle through thousands of pages on the WADA website, feel free. I'm doing so as we speak just to quell this crap.

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                      #60
                      this was suppose to be unbiased???lol..you are clearly biased toward manny,,you ****ted on floyd

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