An Unbiased Look At Pacquiao-Mayweather

[PAKYO]

Slipping punches, defense, is a part of boxing. It has nothing to do with being "scared". If you don't understand that then I'm done discussing something so ****** .

You already said the most important thing is to win! and not about being exciting.

So who is more ****** between us?

[IMDAZED]

You already said the most important thing is to win! and not about being exciting.

So who is more ****** between us?

Based on this, clearly you are.

[IMDAZED]

Don't expect to get an intelligent response(if you get one at all) to this.

I know. You put in all this work and this is the thanks you get, you know?

[PAKYO]

Based on this, clearly you are.

Come on, everyone knows already you're one big *****. Of course you will agree with every ***** ****suckers here.

As if the people will be surprised.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I think that applies to Pacman more then Mayweather. From my POV at least.

Pacman being careful? You do realize Pacman really has no business at 147 don't you.....I mean realistically.

Every floyd fight has never been exciting so you're right. Pac can't make it exciting if his partner is not just like his previous fight with clottey.

That goes for every fighter but I just feel Mayweather will be very, very careful with Pac.

You do know that they are both being tested ODS don't you? So where is the irony?

Irony in that Mosley is the one fighter we know for sure USED steroids as opposed to Pacquiao who we have ZERO proof of him ever using PED's. There is irony in that...don't you think?

[FaustoGeraci]

I've looked everywhere on the WADA website - poring through PDFs trying to find this crap about no blood testing 30 days before an event. It is false. Their site claims it can test any time in competition or out of competition. Facts don't lie.



See further links re: testing here:







And if youll notice on the last link, it specifically states that WADA changed its blood testing however would not be able to implement it in time for (surprise) the Vancouver Games.

Thanks for the links, I just read through them and no where in there does it state that they conduct blood tests up until the event. It states tests in general. So in other words, it never claimed what the pamphlet said was false what so ever, which you tried to say.

As for the last link, it is in regards to storing blood tests regardless of positive or negative results so that they can monitor the action the bloodline is doing. In other words, if there are significant changes in between tests or over a certain amount of time. As someone that trains in mixed martial arts and thinks cheaters are cowards, I completely agree and am glad of these developments.

However, it still says nothing about the cut off date for blood tests, which do exist. It speaks to tests in general, which include urine obviously. So nothing is settled on that front, but that's fine. The article the other member posted is more telling. The blood tests show if a user has used PEDs WITHIN 84 DAYS of the test.

So Mayweather refusing to bend on 24 days to 14 is comical. He is the one that was hustled out of millions by Big Willie (as Greg Leon exposed and the Mayweather camp never denied), and HAD to come back to the sport of boxing to pay off those debts and his large IRS bill. He needs the fight more than Pacquiao does for a variety of reasons. Pacquiao is more popular internationally and possibly even in North America. Pacquiao is more exciting, Pacquiao is regarded as the number 1 P4P boxer. So for him to balk at a 10 day difference when drugs are seen within 84 days prior speaks volumes.

Also, to the guy who said I wasn't a hardcore fan because I thought Mayweather's performances vs Marquez and DLH were hard to watch. I have been watching Floyd since the amateurs, his offense used to be just as good as his defense. Lately, ever since getting buzzed by Judah, he is a purely defensive fighter. So from someone that loves Floyd's skills in the ring it is sad for me to see a guy so talented handcuff his own talents. Period.

As for the Shane Mosley debacle. Let's remember, Mosley has not fought since last January. Other than wiping out a finally clean Margarito, he struggled vs Cotto, Mayorga etc. and was a 4-1 underdog heading into the Margarito fight for a reason. For all those saying Pacquiao didn't fight Mosley, I don't remember Mayweather fighting Cotto or Clottey either. Mayweather never demanded these drug tests vs Marquez, and is only doing so vs. Mosley to save face. Mosley is so strapped for a big name fight that he is willing to do whatever it takes to face Mayweather. Similar to Paulie Mali saying he would fight Pacquiao without tests, despite thinking he's dirty. Two guys desperate for a career pay day and exposure.

The bottom line is it was Mayweather that no showed the meeting with Jerry Jones, demanded the drug tests, and refused to bend in front of the mediator that Pacquiao's people brought forth in effort to save the fight. To say Pacquiao is scared of the fight or the drug testing is a falsehood. If he was he would of never agreed to 24 days prior and immediately after. His camp is not making remarks about Mayweather HAVING TO BE A CHEATER because he is undefeated and largely untested. Mayweather's own father is saying Pacquiao should be avoided because he's too dangerous and you have Floyd himself talking about possibly dieing in the ring. I'm sorry, but common sense tells me Mayweather and his history of hand picking guys is the scared one. Regardless, the fight needs to be made, or both should fight Paul Williams and take an L from him.

[IMDAZED]

Come on, everyone knows already you're one big *****. Of course you will agree with every ***** ****suckers here.

As if the people will be surprised.

No, not everyone knows that. Although you would think that because you're ******. And lets face it...you are.

[MindBat]

The subject has been beaten to death alright, but there will always be something to say about it.

And yeah, Floyd has performed a lot better in past fights. The thing is he'll perform at his best when he is pressured, and even then he'll make it look like another day on the job.

Shane, if he's up to it, should be able to bring out the best in Floyd and vice versa. There are many who think Shane has enough make Floyd earn his pay that night.

Bottom line: Floyd is not in the "brawling" business. He's in the check cashing business and boxing is his art. Boxing, Not brawling is an art -a science -- Which is why many don't care for his style of fighting. Many seem to keep forgetting that boxing is also a business.

In the end when it's all said and done and the fat lady sings, what matters to the fighters is their health.

[IMDAZED]

Thanks for the links, I just read through them and no where in there does it state that they conduct blood tests up until the event. It states tests in general. So in other words, it never claimed what the pamphlet said was false what so ever, which you tried to say.

As for the last link, it is in regards to storing blood tests regardless of positive or negative results so that they can monitor the action the bloodline is doing. In other words, if there are significant changes in between tests or over a certain amount of time. As someone that trains in mixed martial arts and thinks cheaters are cowards, I completely agree and am glad of these developments.

However, it still says nothing about the cut off date for blood tests, which do exist. It speaks to tests in general, which include urine obviously. So nothing is settled on that front, but that's fine. The article the other member posted is more telling. The blood tests show if a user has used PEDs WITHIN 84 DAYS of the test.

So Mayweather refusing to bend on 24 days to 14 is comical. He is the one that was hustled out of millions by Big Willie (as Greg Leon exposed and the Mayweather camp never denied), and HAD to come back to the sport of boxing to pay off those debts and his large IRS bill. He needs the fight more than Pacquiao does for a variety of reasons. Pacquiao is more popular internationally and possibly even in North America. Pacquiao is more exciting, Pacquiao is regarded as the number 1 P4P boxer. So for him to balk at a 10 day difference when drugs are seen within 84 days prior speaks volumes.

Also, to the guy who said I wasn't a hardcore fan because I thought Mayweather's performances vs Marquez and DLH were hard to watch. I have been watching Floyd since the amateurs, his offense used to be just as good as his defense. Lately, ever since getting buzzed by Judah, he is a purely defensive fighter. So from someone that loves Floyd's skills in the ring it is sad for me to see a guy so talented handcuff his own talents. Period.

As for the Shane Mosley debacle. Let's remember, Mosley has not fought since last January. Other than wiping out a finally clean Margarito, he struggled vs Cotto, Mayorga etc. and was a 4-1 underdog heading into the Margarito fight for a reason. For all those saying Pacquiao didn't fight Mosley, I don't remember Mayweather fighting Cotto or Clottey either. Mayweather never demanded these drug tests vs Marquez, and is only doing so vs. Mosley to save face. Mosley is so strapped for a big name fight that he is willing to do whatever it takes to face Mayweather. Similar to Paulie Mali saying he would fight Pacquiao without tests, despite thinking he's dirty. Two guys desperate for a career pay day and exposure.

The bottom line is it was Mayweather that no showed the meeting with Jerry Jones, demanded the drug tests, and refused to bend in front of the mediator that Pacquiao's people brought forth in effort to save the fight. To say Pacquiao is scared of the fight or the drug testing is a falsehood. If he was he would of never agreed to 24 days prior and immediately after. His camp is not making remarks about Mayweather HAVING TO BE A CHEATER because he is undefeated and largely untested. Mayweather's own father is saying Pacquiao should be avoided because he's too dangerous and you have Floyd himself talking about possibly dieing in the ring. I'm sorry, but common sense tells me Mayweather and his history of hand picking guys is the scared one. Regardless, the fight needs to be made, or both should fight Paul Williams and take an L from him.

Link please.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Thanks for the links, I just read through them and no where in there does it state that they conduct blood tests up until the event. It states tests in general. So in other words, it never claimed what the pamphlet said was false what so ever, which you tried to say.

As for the last link, it is in regards to storing blood tests regardless of positive or negative results so that they can monitor the action the bloodline is doing. In other words, if there are significant changes in between tests or over a certain amount of time. As someone that trains in mixed martial arts and thinks cheaters are cowards, I completely agree and am glad of these developments.

However, it still says nothing about the cut off date for blood tests, which do exist. It speaks to tests in general, which include urine obviously. So nothing is settled on that front, but that's fine. The article the other member posted is more telling. The blood tests show if a user has used PEDs WITHIN 84 DAYS of the test.

So Mayweather refusing to bend on 24 days to 14 is comical. He is the one that was hustled out of millions by Big Willie (as Greg Leon exposed and the Mayweather camp never denied), and HAD to come back to the sport of boxing to pay off those debts and his large IRS bill. He needs the fight more than Pacquiao does for a variety of reasons. Pacquiao is more popular internationally and possibly even in North America. Pacquiao is more exciting, Pacquiao is regarded as the number 1 P4P boxer. So for him to balk at a 10 day difference when drugs are seen within 84 days prior speaks volumes.

Also, to the guy who said I wasn't a hardcore fan because I thought Mayweather's performances vs Marquez and DLH were hard to watch. I have been watching Floyd since the amateurs, his offense used to be just as good as his defense. Lately, ever since getting buzzed by Judah, he is a purely defensive fighter. So from someone that loves Floyd's skills in the ring it is sad for me to see a guy so talented handcuff his own talents. Period.

As for the Shane Mosley debacle. Let's remember, Mosley has not fought since last January. Other than wiping out a finally clean Margarito, he struggled vs Cotto, Mayorga etc. and was a 4-1 underdog heading into the Margarito fight for a reason. For all those saying Pacquiao didn't fight Mosley, I don't remember Mayweather fighting Cotto or Clottey either. Mayweather never demanded these drug tests vs Marquez, and is only doing so vs. Mosley to save face. Mosley is so strapped for a big name fight that he is willing to do whatever it takes to face Mayweather. Similar to Paulie Mali saying he would fight Pacquiao without tests, despite thinking he's dirty. Two guys desperate for a career pay day and exposure.

The bottom line is it was Mayweather that no showed the meeting with Jerry Jones, demanded the drug tests, and refused to bend in front of the mediator that Pacquiao's people brought forth in effort to save the fight. To say Pacquiao is scared of the fight or the drug testing is a falsehood. If he was he would of never agreed to 24 days prior and immediately after. His camp is not making remarks about Mayweather HAVING TO BE A CHEATER because he is undefeated and largely untested. Mayweather's own father is saying Pacquiao should be avoided because he's too dangerous and you have Floyd himself talking about possibly dieing in the ring. I'm sorry, but common sense tells me Mayweather and his history of hand picking guys is the scared one. Regardless, the fight needs to be made, or both should fight Paul Williams and take an L from him.

Excellent post and if I had some more green K I would give you more. Best post of the week man...