Mayweather-Pacquiao in Jeopardy Over Drug Test - Merged Thread:

[p4p-champ]

*****s are some dumb mofos!!!! PAC has AGREED TO THE BLOOD TESTS!!!!!!!!!! He just doesnt want them prior to the weeks leading up to the fight. A before and after. IF Pac were on something it would still be in his body afterwards its not just gonna disappear. the test would probably be 1 or 2 days after the fight. So stop making this about Pac and instead realize that floyd is bein a ***** again who just doesnt want to face a true challenge!

******....Mayweather will be subject to the EXACT same blood tests. Pacman need to man up and take the damn tests. Phobia of needles is no excuse when you have tattoos on your body.

[gopi11]

So i say again, whats the problem???

crickets chirping...

[cortdawg25]

I guess that I would suggest the flaw hear is in assuming that Floyd is entirely ingenuous in his motives and in his pronouncements that all he wants is a fair fight. In reality neither thing can be substantiated, and I find it highly unlikely that matters are this simple. On top of that, as with all such things, it is a matter of negotiation, not of one side unilaterally deciding the terms, and then writing slanderous pieces to smear the other side once they do not get it exactly as they have demanded. If the Floyd side was really so ingenuous perhaps they would conduct their side of this aspect of the negotiation in a way other then writing pieces in the press deliberately aimed at suggesting Pac. to be a doper.

dude there is no smear. this is fact, they don't want to subject to random blood testing. they only want to take the blood test when they want to take it. If u dirty and have to take the test, then the best thing to do is dictate when the test should be taken. Is that what your saying?

so who is really ingenous? the guy willing and ready to make the fight happen by any means( he even agreed to a ridiculous 10M fee for coming overweight) or guy whose camp has been doing a whole bunch of crazy talk since the fight has been negoiated!


If the fight is being called off especially for somehting that would appear to be a non-issue...that's something u talk to the press about. This is news worthy, arguing about gloves not so much!

[WESS]

I'm not over analyzing anything, I'm explaining things as they are. Holding up a hypothetical example with no real-world relevance is of no use whatsoever.

And I agree that it's probably just shenanigans from the Mayweather camp, but I find it shameless nonetheless. There's hyping a fight, and then there is outright slander. I feel that this falls more in the latter category.

But we're dealing with the Mayweather's. This is expected and if its all just BS it will be brought to court and Mayweather Sr will be held responsiable for his acts.

As I see it, its just hype and Mayweather Sr being Mayweather Sr. They paid more than enough so I care less as to how they feel about things. Its part of the game.

What people NEED to do is realize that this Roach and Sr's thing, not Jr and Pac. People are bashing Jr for Sr's bs. People tend to find anything to bash Jr.

[Njord777]

I guess that I would suggest the flaw hear is in assuming that Floyd is entirely ingenuous in his motives and in his pronouncements that all he wants is a fair fight. In reality neither thing can be substantiated, and I find it highly unlikely that matters are this simple. On top of that, as with all such things, it is a matter of negotiation, not of one side unilaterally deciding the terms, and then writing slanderous pieces to smear the other side once they do not get it exactly as they have demanded. If the Floyd side was really so ingenuous perhaps they would conduct their side of this aspect of the negotiation in a way other then writing pieces in the press deliberately aimed at suggesting Pac. to be a doper.

The problem is very few of us were genuinely entertaining the idea that Manny Pacquiao was on steroids. Floyd Sr., Floyd Jr., Morrales, Barrera and Cotto could have all said they had 'doubts' and most of us would have still ignored it. Talk is talk.

Manny Pacquiao is now refusing to be blood tested, due to some bull**** excuse of being superstitious. For millions of dollars you can get over your superstition. All the talk of Manny being on performance enhancing drugs hasn't come from the Mayweather camps TALKING, it's come from the Pacquiao camps REFUSAL to take the tests. We can't attribute this all to Floyd and his people. Manny has to realize what refusing the tests is going to do.

[WESS]

dude there is no smear. this is fact, they don't want to subject to random blood testing. they only want to take the blood test when they want to take it. If u dirty and have to take the test, then the best thing to do is dictate when the test should be taken. Is that what your saying?

so who is really ingenous? the guy willing and ready to make the fight happen by any means( he even agreed to a ridiculous 10M fee for coming overweight) or guy whose camp has been doing a whole bunch of crazy talk since the fight has been negoiated!


If the fight is being called off especially for somehting that would appear to be a non-issue...that's something u talk to the press about. This is news worthy, arguing about gloves not so much!

This is why I said Pac is being paid enough to just shut up and color.... If Sr is bad mouthing Pac and his camp the truth will be heard. Either way this is more Sr and Roach's personal BS... not Jr and Pac's

[handler000]

The issue right now is basically that Mayweather's camp want to run this show in regards to the Olympic drug test without any compromises. Roach is willing to get the Olympic drug test done after the fight and before the press conference, i don't see anything wrong with that, fair and honest. Now you're telling me that Roach even agreed to 1 week before the fight, so what's the ****ing problem.

BTW, can you post the link to that article where Roach said that. Thanks.

The problem is you can get in up to 3-4 cycles of steroids in the 30 day period they don't want Manny tested. A cycle of Steroid runs it's course through you body in 7-10 days. Sounds su****ious to say the least. And there is NO link with Roach stating they will do it a week before the fight; PAC will still be juicing!!!

[boojee]

So i say again, whats the problem???

nothing, Floyd don't want none.

[switchsouthpaw]

Floyd's legendary status can grow with this testing demand. With Floyd's status in the boxing world along with Pacquiao's, this Olympic style testing can have an impact on the boxing world and can open eyes to how relaxed the current testing is.

Floyd can be the "spearhead" in a movement that might change the whole testing process. If that does happen, then Floyd will add to his legend by basically changing boxing. It will be historical.

I hope other boxers with big names decide to step forward and agree with the Olympic testing for two reasons, to advance the safety in out sport, and to basically clean the sport up and block out the cheaters.
I don't know how a love for a fighter will blind one to what is best for boxing itself.

Right Floyd should fight for this and it would be the toughest fight he's had in years.

[WESS]

The problem is very few of us were genuinely entertaining the idea that Manny Pacquiao was on steroids. Floyd Sr., Floyd Jr., Morrales, Barrera and Cotto could have all said they had 'doubts' and most of us would have still ignored it. Talk is talk.

Manny Pacquiao is now refusing to be blood tested, due to some bull**** excuse of being superstitious. For millions of dollars you can get over your superstition. All the talk of Manny being on performance enhancing drugs hasn't come from the Mayweather camps TALKING, it's come from the Pacquiao camps REFUSAL to take the tests. We can't attribute this all to Floyd and his people. Manny has to realize what refusing the tests is going to do.

Most people blam Jr for anything. There is an overcast here (in Fla) so it MUST be Mayweather's fault.......