Mayweather-Pacquiao Has To Be Made, Says Schaefer

[HattonFaithful]

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your comment is? Shane Mosley, Chad Dawson and Paul Williams have been tremendously successful in the ring, but can't sell fights, so they can't make the big money. Manny let his fists do the talking against JMM and sold 450,000 PPV buys. He let his fists do the talking against David Diaz and sold 150,000 PPV; against De La Hoya and Hatton and did 1.2 million and 825,000 respectively.

You may be delusional enough to think that what you do in the ring is all that matters, but no one else, especially the fighters, believe that. But you are right, Manny doesn't need Mayweather. He can fight Mosley or JMM in a rematch or Timothy Bradley. However, if he wants another payday of $10 million or more he has to fight Mayweather.

you should re-read his post because he said that it SHOULD be about what you do in the ring and not that, that IS what its about

[big_james10]

It should be 65/35 in favor of Pacquiao, PERIOD!

Pac has the strap.

Pac is the top draw.

Pac/Cotto PPV is going to be better than Floyd's last outing.


Floyd should consider himself lucky if he gets 40%.

Its a good thing that you are not Pac's representative or he would die broke.

[DD09]

However, if he wants another payday of $10 million or more he has to fight Mayweather.

I don't agree with that statement. Any fights from now on will bring Pac big money.

Pac I believe has reached the level of Mayweather in terms of PPV numbers. In fact I think people now will much rather watch Pac than Mayweather. Pac fights better fighters, and has much more interesting fights. His style is what your average fans want to see. I think once the PPV numbers are released it will prove this.

With that being said the fight should be 50/50 Split with the winner getting 60/40 if he can stop the other guy by KO. (Which I believe is what RJJ and BHop agreed to) Hopefully they can make it happen.

[big_james10]

you should re-read his post because he said that it SHOULD be about what you do in the ring and not that, that IS what its about

I did reread it. He did say it SHOULD be about what you do in the ring. However, in his next line he said that Pac doesn't need Mayweather because he lets his fist sell fights. I agree that it "should" be about what you do in the ring, but I don't think this guy understand that because of his next line.

[Iceta]

I criticized Cotto for not being a little bit assertive about calling out Floyd Mayweather, but I'm not going to give Pacquiao a total pass for it just because I like him a lot better than Cotto. When Brian Kenny asked him about Floyd, he did act like he knew the negotiation process of the fight would be a hassole. So he didn't really talk too much about it. But Mayweather in turn doesn't really talk about it either. I think really, it's gonna come down to how much Schaefer and Arum get along and agree with each other.

[Jiddu Dali]

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your comment is? Shane Mosley, Chad Dawson and Paul Williams have been tremendously successful in the ring, but can't sell fights, so they can't make the big money. Manny let his fists do the talking against JMM and sold 450,000 PPV buys. He let his fists do the talking against David Diaz and sold 150,000 PPV; against De La Hoya and Hatton and did 1.2 million and 825,000 respectively.

You may be delusional enough to think that what you do in the ring is all that matters, but no one else, especially the fighters, believe that. But you are right, Manny doesn't need Mayweather. He can fight Mosley or JMM in a rematch or Timothy Bradley. However, if he wants another payday of $10 million or more he has to fight Mayweather.

hella funny....

[Jiddu Dali]

I don't agree with that statement. Any fights from now on will bring Pac big money.

Pac I believe has reached the level of Mayweather in terms of PPV numbers. In fact I think people now will much rather watch Pac than Mayweather. Pac fights better fighters, and has much more interesting fights. His style is what your average fans want to see. I think once the PPV numbers are released it will prove this.

Originally Posted by Al Haymon
Pay Per View Sales:


Vs Delahoya
Mayweather: 2.4 million
Pacquiao: 1.2 million

Vs. Marquez
Mayweather: 1.0 million
Pacquiao: 400K

Vs Hatton
Mayweather: 950K
Pacquiao: 825K

Total:
Mayweather: 4,35 million
Pacquiao: 2.43 million

Other Opponents

Mayweather vs Baldomir: 325K
Pacquiao vs Diaz: 175K

Mayweather vs Judah: 390K
Pacquiao vs Barrera: 350K

Box Office Sales:

Vs Delahoya
Mayweather: 17,078 attendance; $18.4 million revenue (the record)
Pacquiao: 14,468 attendance; $14.4 million revenue

Vs. Marquez:
Mayweather: 13,116 attendance
Pacquiao: 11,061 attendance

Vs Hatton:
Mayweather: 15,488 attendance; $10.4 million revenue
Pacquiao: 15,368 attendance, $8.8 million revenue


Mayweather sells more against common opponents.
Mayweather sells more against no-names (Baldomir/Diaz).

Mayweather?sells more.

[big_james10]

I don't agree with that statement. Any fights from now on will bring Pac big money.

Pac I believe has reached the level of Mayweather in terms of PPV numbers. In fact I think people now will much rather watch Pac than Mayweather. Pac fights better fighters, and has much more interesting fights. His style is what your average fans want to see. I think once the PPV numbers are released it will prove this.

With that being said the fight should be 50/50 Split with the winner getting 60/40 if he can stop the other guy by KO. (Which I believe is what RJJ and BHop agreed to) Hopefully they can make it happen.

I can respect your disagreement. However, if Pac doesn't fight Mayweather next and chooses to fight Marquez or someone else, we can see who is right and see how much he gets for that fight. I would bet it won't be $10 million. If people would rather see Pac than Mayweather, he would have drawn bigger numbers than Mayweather against Hatton and De La Hoya. You can't use the Cotto fight as a true barometer of comparision because Cotto is capable of drawing several hundred thousand PPVs to his fights without Pac. Marquez was not.
If Pac is more popular than Mayweather, then the Cotto fight should draw 1.5 million PPV. That would make up for the Cotto factor and prove Pac's popularity.


Pac doesn't fight better fighters. He simply fights more competitive fights because Mayweather is a far superior fighter. The JMM fight was no fluke and weight had nothing to do with the fact that JMM couldn't land a punch.

[Jiddu Dali]

I can respect your disagreement. However, if Pac doesn't fight Mayweather next and chooses to fight Marquez or someone else, we can see who is right and see how much he gets for that fight. I would bet it won't be $10 million. If people would rather see Pac than Mayweather, he would have drawn bigger numbers than Mayweather against Hatton and De La Hoya. Pac doesn't fight better fighters. He simply fights more competitive fights because Mayweather is a far superior fighter.

[Access_Denied]

50/50 period! A hostage negotiation would be easier than working something out with Mayweather when it comes to Pac. Now that Pac won the way he did it will be even more difficult because Mayweather doesn't like risks. May/Pac 2011.