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    #91
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Manny Pacquiao needs to fight Floyd at 147 and then we see how bad he really is. Not taking anything away from Pac but catchweights must take something away from fighters I guess because Freddie Roach keeps demanding them. Pac is more than capable fighting at 147 so why shouldn't he agaisnt Floyd? Like everybody keep and kept saying in regards to Cotto "What's 2 more pounds?" same can be said about Manny. that's why Mayweather stays on top of his game because he ain't ****** to drain himself to give his opponent a chance to beat him. Before Floyd gives any fighter a chance to beat him he much rather pay the penalty. No way Floyd does a catchweight fight with Manny and for that I can't blame him. Roach won't be bullying Floyd like he did Cotto because 1) Mayweather is a big $ fighter 2) he has out sold Pacquiao in every PPV outing 3) Floyd is his own boss who is Co promoted by Golden Boy so Arum can't do to Floyd what he did to Cotto and rope him in.
    I pretty much agree with this post. Pacquiao needs to fight Floyd at whatever weight an actual division is. The money part is gonna be worked out after we see what this fight with Cotto did on PPV. Floyd like you said won't make the weight anyway even if Pacquiao put it in the contract as a penalty.

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      #92
      Originally posted by yingyang View Post
      floydrunner wont take 50/50. It would take an act of God in order for this
      fight to happen.

      I'd say Pacman fight Sugar shane at 145 lbs first
      and then fight Floydrunner.

      And to those fans saying Floyd is in differnt league than Pacman... Please!!!
      floydrunner doesnt wanna fight the top 3 welter weight boxer. Pacman just
      fought the best welter weight miguel cotto and took all the shot that cotto
      unload
      .
      That's why Floyd is in a different league because he doesn't take much
      punishment and still out lands/class his opponents. The way Pac swings
      all crazy, he would be missing all niht and getting countered till Roach
      stops the fight. Honestly I do think Floyd toyed with JMM to not overly
      scare away Arum and Roach. I got a feeling when he gets in the ring
      with Manny will see a different Floyd because he is going to make an
      example of Pac. I will never doubt Pac though but I'm riding with Floyd.
      To me Floyd is more complete than Manny.

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        #93
        Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
        I agree. When they fight, lets all hope that the undercard is better than Pacquaio/Cotto.
        lol for real man that was a major disappointment i really though foreman shoulda knocked santos out

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          #94
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          People keep saying Floyd is difficult to negotiate with but keep forgetting
          when Zab Judah lost to Carlos Baldomir, him and Floyd already was
          schedule to fight so once Judah lost the fight almost didn't happen
          but Floyd and Zab people changed the contract a lil, Zab got less
          and the fight happen as smooth as that. Then there is Oscar De La Hoya
          who made Floyd wear the 10oz gloves, come up in weight and had to
          fiht in the ring Oscar picked and Floyd said cool! Anything to make the
          fight and boom! it happened. Ricky Hatton took the highest percentage
          and Floyd said fine, the fight happened. I think Pacquiao has been the
          most difficult with his negotiations as someone on here has pointed out.
          Oscar, Hatton and Cotto were all dificult for the most part. I think Floyd
          has earned his right to be a lil difficult in negotiating with Pacquiao because
          PPV business wise Floyd>Pac. I have a feeling that this past fight with
          Pac/Cotto didn't even do more than JMM/Floyd because of that weak
          24/7 they did. People think that marketing and promotion don't play
          a big part in selling a product but guess what, it does. Floyd may not
          be fan friendly but his PPV buys *****s Pac and I think that will be the
          case this week. Lets wait and see.
          The thing that almost made me pass on the PPV last night was the louzy undercard Arum threw on it. But I went ahead and got it anyway because it was a heavily pumped up fight, and since I am not a fan of Floyd, I want Pacquiao to go into the negotiation with some leverage.

          Here is the thing with Arum's match making. He threw lame fights on that undercard just because the Soto-Valero fight fell apart. You can't tell me that he doesn't have other fighters in his stable that he could've show cased that were better than Chavez Jr. and Yuri Foreman.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Iceta View Post
            The thing that almost made me pass on the PPV last night was the louzy undercard Arum threw on it. But I went ahead and got it anyway because it was a heavily pumped up fight, and since I am not a fan of Floyd, I want Pacquiao to go into the negotiation with some leverage.

            Here is the thing with Arum's match making. He threw lame fights on that undercard just because the Soto-Valero fight fell apart. You can't tell me that he doesn't have other fighters in his stable that he could've show cased that were better than Chavez Jr. and Yuri Foreman.
            I just have a feeling that Pac/Cotto as good as it was didn't beat
            Floyd's numbers and the reason that is, is so simple and that's
            becuase Pac and Cotto have no personality whatsoever outside
            of the ring so casual fans most likely wasn't feeling it like whatever.
            Just like Pam Anderson did to Pac I heard on some talk show.
            When asked if she wanted to meet Manny Pacquiao and she said
            "NO" Floyd is smart and he knows what can sell and how to stay
            on. Look at Mosley and Cotto? People were ready to throw Mosley
            in the scrap pile if it wasn't for the Margarito win and now people
            are doing it to Cotto despite what they did for the sport and in the
            most entertaining way. Floyd was for the fans in the beginning
            but people kept crapping on him so he became the villian and it has
            worked out well for him.

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              #96
              Mayweather is hiding underneath his bed... trembling, shaking and a bit out of sink... he doesnt want to fight Pac... he will either trash talk or price himself out or both... to avoid Pacman...
              Sr and Jr are both thugs and nothing more...
              And for all the Pacman haters, please stop making excuses for those fighters that Pac has beaten... they themselves are not making any such excuses... hahahahaha...
              Accept the fact that a man from Manila is the best ever boxer...

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                #97
                wont happen. manny's mother wants him to retire

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                  #98
                  Pac beats Floyd in a showdown! Floyd is a defense specialist but he has never faced anyone like Pac.
                  1. Pac's work rate will force Floyd to defend all 12 rounds with almost no rest.
                  2. Pac's punches come from different angles. That's one thing that Floyd hasn't experienced. Sooner or later, Pac will land. And we all now know that Pac strikes with intent to hurt, not just to score points.
                  3. Pac's speed will...without a doubt, penetrate that ****** shoulder roll especially coming from a southpaw. Just as Iron Mike has said before: "Everyone has a game plan until they get hit". Truely applies to the Pacman.
                  4. Pac has proven that he can take a punch. He's gonna throw a variety of 5/6 punch combos without respecting Floyd feather-like fists. I can see Floyd thinking...WTF?

                  Can I get an intelligent reply please? And don't even say "So and so is bigger and stronger etc...Pac's never fought a true welter BS". That’s been said so many times, proven wrong just as many times, and it no longer makes sense. Hear me?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Zn00p View Post
                    Mayweather is hiding underneath his bed... trembling, shaking and a bit out of sink... he doesnt want to fight Pac... he will either trash talk or price himself out or both... to avoid Pacman...
                    Sr and Jr are both thugs and nothing more...
                    And for all the Pacman haters, please stop making excuses for those fighters that Pac has beaten... they themselves are not making any such excuses... hahahahaha...
                    Accept the fact that a man from Manila is the best ever boxer...
                    By Floyd retiring he gave Pac a chance to reach P4P status. If Floyd would have fought Pac back in 07, you think you have witnessed a beating? Floyd would have totally annihilated the Pacman that fought JMM. Pacquiao definitely got better but Floyd been better YEARS before Pac. You guys should stop sleeping on Money May because your going to end up hating him more later
                    I'm sure.

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                      I'll give you the same response that I gave the last guy with more emphasis tho.

                      Originally posted by AmericanFighter View Post
                      Pac beats Floyd in a showdown! Floyd is a defense specialist but he has never faced anyone like Pac.
                      1. Pac's work rate will force Floyd to defend all 12 rounds with almost no rest.
                      2. Pac's punches come from different angles. That's one thing that Floyd hasn't experienced. Sooner or later, Pac will land. And we all now know that Pac strikes with intent to hurt, not just to score points.
                      3. Pac's speed will...without a doubt, penetrate that ****** shoulder roll especially coming from a southpaw. Just as Iron Mike has said before: "Everyone has a game plan until they get hit". Truely applies to the Pacman.
                      4. Pac has proven that he can take a punch. He's gonna throw a variety of 5/6 punch combos without respecting Floyd feather-like fists. I can see Floyd thinking...WTF?

                      Can I get an intelligent reply please? And don't even say "So and so is bigger and stronger etc...Pac's never fought a true welter BS". That’s been said so many times, proven wrong just as many times, and it no longer makes sense. Hear me?

                      By Floyd retiring he gave Pac a chance to reach P4P status. If Floyd would have fought Pac back in 07, you think you have witnessed a beating? Floyd would have totally annihilated the Pacman that fought JMM. Pacquiao definitely got better but Floyd been better YEARS before Pac. You guys should stop sleeping on Money May because your going to end up hating him later I'm sure.

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