Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Fantasy fights, Canelo Alvarez-Terence Crawford and more

[LAchargers373]

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Truer words have never been spoken.

Only thing I can add is, 8 months ago I had never heard of Norman, yet now he is a guy Boots is ducking.

Ennis ducked Ortiz. And his promoter ducked Norman jr. After the Karen fight he literally said “I need to go up to 154” “if I had a better opponent I’d be better”



if you missed it it’s right there^

then he got what he asked for exactly. With a career high payday. He ducked it. He didn’t want to fight Ortiz. After saying he wanted better opponents and needed to move to 154. Norman jr also asked for another 300k for the bootsy unification but Eddie refused. That’s also a duck. It’s clear bootsy only is willing to fight Mario barrios. Who has already been KTFO by a LW and beat thoroughly by old semi retired Keef Thurman and just drew with the bumgod Abel Ramos lol. Eddie blocking that fight for benn tho trying to set up a “huge” bootsy vs benn unification match lol. #noonecares #bootsyootsy

[Oregonian]

Embarrassed? I had the fight scored 115-113 sturm and it was at MW. Oscar was terrible at MW and sturms a good fighter he was undefeated at the time he fought Oscar.

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Sturm was a virtual unknown European fighter. That was the reason Oscar fought him hoping he’d beat him easy so he can unify against Hopkins.

When you say that fight was 115-113, it means we watched different fights. Oscar barely won 3 rounds.

[LAchargers373]

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Sturm was a virtual unknown European fighter. That was the reason Oscar fought him hoping he’d beat him easy so he can unify against Hopkins.

When you say that fight was 115-113, it means we watched different fights. Oscar barely won 3 rounds.

Again Oscar was a trash MW I never advocated him as a MW I was pointing to his prime at 147 by the time Oscar was 25 he could have retired and his career would be more accomplished then what bootsys whole career will be

[Oregonian]

I know because he’s 27 and couldn’t do those things breadman was talking about to Karen chudzian. It’s asinine to insinuate he could be effective against an ATG. The guy is all hype. No elite talent great fighter take till the age of 27 to take a meaningful fight. Vergil has been in with elite fighters and is willing to fight the best. I don’t think he could do much to ODLH but he 25 and taking the fights to prove that maybe he can be a great bootsy is trying to set up a fight with Mario barrios. There’s levels to this and boots is on the bottom. Keep drinking your kool aid

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Boots is 33-0 and you’re fixated on a fight he actually won.
There are people here who were shïttïng in Boots for not putting Karen away in their first fight. Boots win every single round and he got criticized.

Think about that. A guy wins ALL 12 rounds and still gets hate. That has to be some really personal misdirects anger.

All things being equal, Boots first weight class is 147. He’s dominated everyone he’s faced.
Oscar’s first weight class and he got dropped hard in his 8th or 10th fight by some Karen-type bum.

Oscar fought Pernell Whittaker in his 24th fight. Most observers called the fight for Sweet Pea. Oscar got a gift decision against a past his prime Sweet Pea. I don’t see the same hate directed towards him.

I love Oscar as a fighter and I hate to denigrate his career but everyone’s career can be nitpicked.

[J.C. Superstar]

Yup , that was the fight of his life and never got rewarded with a rematch
The German won that fight imo

To be fair, Oscar was a declining fighter that was coming off a controversial loss in a rematch with Mosley and had moved up multiple divisions prior to fighting at 160, with his first fight there being a upcoming Champion in Felix Sturm. Which I agree De La Hoya should had lost who was mediocre at Middleweight due to stamina issues and insufficient punching power.

Although Ennis beat the Ukranian contender twice,
Not sure what is Jaron Ennis's reasoning for giving a supbar performances against Karen Chukhadzhian who is physically smaller and doesn't really possess the punching power to put Ennis at risk. I mean he has underrated skills and a granite chin, but you think Ennis would show wrinkles by working the body, cut the ring or catch him in between shots more often by staying busy, instead he only throws low output loaded punches. But he was just thrown off by the Ukranian's ability to box.

Don't think he be able to win against Oscar at 147, same fighter who outbox a puncher in Trinidad and go to war with the likes of Quartey or Vargas.

[LAchargers373]

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Boots is 33-0 and you’re fixated on a fight he actually won.
There are people here who were shïttïng in Boots for not putting Karen away in their first fight. Boots win every single round and he got criticized.

Think about that. A guy wins ALL 12 rounds and still gets hate. That has to be some really personal misdirects anger.

All things being equal, Boots first weight class is 147. He’s dominated everyone he’s faced.
Oscar’s first weight class and he got dropped hard in his 8th or 10th fight by some Karen-type bum.

Oscar fought Pernell Whittaker in his 24th fight. Most observers called the fight for Sweet Pea. Oscar got a gift decision against a past his prime Sweet Pea. I don’t see the same hate directed towards him.

I love Oscar as a fighter and I hate to denigrate his career but everyone’s career can be nitpicked.

Oscar fought sweet pea that’s the difference. Bootsy refuses to fight ANYONE.



again the proof is right there^ out of his mouth. His promoter says “Feb 22 we’re ready to go send the contract” then they get what they wanted and it’s all “oh actually I’m staying at 147 now I need to take a belt from someone people call me email champ” like …what? I don’t know why you as a fan would put up with that? It’s clear that ennis is str8 up LYING to people. The first time he called someone out (Ortiz) they stepped up and sent a career high contract for him HUGE fight but he turned it down. Oscar de le Hoya never in his career did some frugazi nonsense like that. Dude wore fishnets and took fingers up the rear fa sho but he was elite at 147 and never ducked anyone in his entire career. His career at 25 was more accomplished than what bootsy ootsy will ever come close to attaining

[LAchargers373]

To be fair, Oscar was a declining fighter that was coming off a controversial loss in a rematch with Mosley and had moved up multiple divisions prior to fighting at 160, with his first fight there being a upcoming Champion in Felix Sturm. Which I agree De La Hoya should had lost.

Although Ennis beat the Ukranian contender twice,
Not sure what is Jaron Ennis's reasoning for giving a supbar performances against Karen Chukhadzhian who is physically smaller and doesn't really possess the punching power to put Ennis at risk. I mean he has underrated skills and a granite chin, but you think Ennis would show wrinkles by working the body, cut the ring or catch him in between shots more often by staying busy, instead he only throws low output loaded punches. But he was just thrown off by the Ukranian's ability to box.

Don't think he be able to win against Oscar at 147, same fighter who outbox Trinidad and go to war with punchers like Quartey or Vargas.

Every fighter you named in this post would absolutely wash bootsy. Insulting to them to mention this guy in the same sentence as them imo

[real raw]

Soon as my hero Roy's chin was tested he folded. Oscar's chin was granite without question.

Oscar's resume murders Roy's & did at every stage.

Oscar's fundamentals = twenty billion times better than Roy's.

Oscar's offensive skills were elite. Of course, Roy's were at times otherworldly.

Highlight reels do not a fighter make, and always remember: chin, guts, heart, spite & mental violence all count. Roy can't live with Oscar on any of these metrics.

P4P, as in a same size prime RJJ vs a same size prime ODLH is an absolute pick'em.

Everything you said is true.... except.........prime ODL is NOT beating Prime Roy Jones, even if they are the same size. Prime Roy's reflexes are just too good.

[MulaKO]

To be fair, Oscar was a declining fighter that was coming off a controversial loss in a rematch with Mosley and had moved up multiple divisions prior to fighting at 160, with his first fight there being a upcoming Champion in Felix Sturm. Which I agree De La Hoya should had lost who was mediocre at Middleweight due to stamina issues and insufficient punching power.

Although Ennis beat the Ukranian contender twice,
Not sure what is Jaron Ennis's reasoning for giving a supbar performances against Karen Chukhadzhian who is physically smaller and doesn't really possess the punching power to put Ennis at risk. I mean he has underrated skills and a granite chin, but you think Ennis would show wrinkles by working the body, cut the ring or catch him in between shots more often by staying busy, instead he only throws low output loaded punches. But he was just thrown off by the Ukranian's ability to box.

Don't think he be able to win against Oscar at 147, same fighter who outbox a puncher in Trinidad and go to war with the likes of Quartey or Vargas.

No chance against Oscar at 147
Oscar had two mishaps
umo , one being Sturm and the other was coasting against Floyd

[The D3vil]

Ugh, man, the racists in here who are obsessed with Breadman are making this a hard read.

Like dude literally said, "Let's see more from Boots before we have him beating an ATG like Oscar" and that's still not good enough for the obvious Mexican haters in here.

Like, what is he supposed to say, one of the most physically gifted fighters we've seen in a while would get swept 12-0 by Oscar & not land a punch"?

Oscar was floored by Giorgio Campanella, but yeah, let's pretend that Boots Ennis couldn't lay a finger on Oscar

Like, give me a break.

We need some real moderation on this board. Too many racist losers in here, who just hate Bread & most Black fighters, especially American Black fighters.