Imagine suing somebody for battery in a professionally sanctioned fight.

[billeau2]

Ryan had a positive Ped test, the Haney team could easily say everything you said was because of Peds, how can they prove it wasn't, he had never dominated that level of fighter in this manner before and Haney has never lost like that before, its not us that needs convincing, its the judge and he probably don't hang around boxing forums.

You cannot prove a negative. There's no logic that would allow the argument that "because it cannot be proved steroids did not affect the outcome Haney is due compensation." What will happen are two things that will probably get the came dismissed.

The first is expert testimony about the amount of the substance found. It will be established that this was not a large amount of the substance. The second would be proving Ryan was deliberate in taking and acting with malice in taking the substance, and that it was therefore not an occupational hazard involved with training.

They were both engaged in a fight so the activity cannot be a cause in and of itself for the damages. But the real killer is going to be when Haney has to establish his state of mind when he let in the fight go on after the contract was violated...that he was somehow unaware in a way a reasonable person would be, that Ryan already had established he was not fit to fight, according to the contract at hand initially used.

It will be argued that Haney not having his title on the line, not being given a loss, knowing the condition of his opponent, Ryan being overweight and behaving unacceptably, already accepted these conditions and was justly compensated as well, including the money Ryan paid him.

A plumber does a really bad job, I see evidence of this before he starts and my solution is, I agree to pay him next to nothing, to gouge him, and then he does a job that destroys the house... Would a jury not find my conduct a contributing factor? Haney, my house, both show unreasonable conduct in accepting and taking advantage of a situation with potential danger and problems. In both cases we are compensated for this judgment.

Hanny did not come into court with clean hands as they say... And that is what we'll get his case booted. See above example.

[Roadblock]

You cannot prove a negative. There's no logic that would allow the argument that "because it cannot be proved steroids did not affect the outcome Haney is due compensation." What will happen are two things that will probably get the came dismissed.

The first is expert testimony about the amount of the substance found. It will be established that this was not a large amount of the substance. The second would be proving Ryan was deliberate in taking and acting with malice in taking the substance, and that it was therefore not an occupational hazard involved with training.

They were both engaged in a fight so the activity cannot be a cause in and of itself for the damages. But the real killer is going to be when Haney has to establish his state of mind when he let in the fight go on after the contract was violated...that he was somehow unaware in a way a reasonable person would be, that Ryan already had established he was not fit to fight, according to the contract at hand initially used.

It will be argued that Haney not having his title on the line, not being given a loss, knowing the condition of his opponent, Ryan being overweight and behaving unacceptably, already accepted these conditions and was justly compensated as well, including the money Ryan paid him.

A plumber does a really bad job, I see evidence of this before he starts and my solution is, I agree to pay him next to nothing, to gouge him, and then he does a job that destroys the house... Would a jury not find my conduct a contributing factor? Haney, my house, both show unreasonable conduct in accepting and taking advantage of a situation with potential danger and problems. In both cases we are compensated for this judgment.

Hanny did not come into court with clean hands as they say... And that is what we'll get his case booted. See above example.

I can see all the counters back and forward in court, I dont think the amount will mean much as it will be a case of that was just a finger print he would have used it throughout camp to get major benefits and was the cause of his weight gain blah blah , as you say Haney let the fight go on thats a big deal in favour of Ryan I would think , do you know if Haney knew about the positive test before the fight, is that what youre referring to or letting it go on being overweight if Haney knew he was hot and then went on with the fight thats good for Ryan.

[joseph5620]

Nobody is saying Ryan should get the title. He missed weight, so he is ineligible to win the title. But Haney definitely LOST the title so it should be vacant and 2 other guys should fight for it......

The person I quoted did say that. So don't tell me what "nobody is saying" until you develop some reading comprehension.

We all saw what we saw. King Ry give Haney Cry a severe beating. We can't unsee this. Haney Cry crying for his 0 back like we can just wipe our memories. Haney Cry is a shame on the whole Cry family and the Cry family name and legacy. He is a disgrace to all criers everywhere. Give King Ry the belt back to go with his crown. Nash out - His Excellency and the voice of sanity.

It was a non title fight so why would the title be vacant based on that fight? Even if it was a title fight, you cannot make the title vacant from a bout that was declared a no contest based on a failed drug test due to performance enhancing drugs. So Ryan was ineligible whether he made weight or not. No contest means the fight doesn't count so nobody "LOST." You are just as strange and uninformed as the person I originally responded to.

[The D3vil]

You're a moron.

People die in boxing. We should be encouraging fighters to sue cheaters out of the sport, so we can have a clean sport, not laughing at them.

[joseph5620]

You're a moron.

People die in boxing. We should be encouraging fighters to sue cheaters out of the sport, so we can have a clean sport, not laughing at them.

It's amazing how they support the guy that cheated and make a villain out of the boxer that was cheated.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You're a moron.

People die in boxing. We should be encouraging fighters to sue cheaters out of the sport, so we can have a clean sport, not laughing at them.

Another woke p****.

Imagine Arguello suing Pryor for battery. Unthinkable.

Nobody is defending Ryan cheating, but a professional fighter suing another pro fighter for battery in a pro fight is one of the WEAKEST moves I’ve ever seen.

[ELPacman]

Perhaps Haney should of said, fight was off when Garcia didn't make weight and none of this would have happened. Though there in lies a predicament. Haney trained hard, figure the weight advantage wouldn't play into it and he could still beat Garcia. At this point, was it the weight or the PEDs that assisted Garcia? Either way, Haney could have stopped before it ever became a question.

Granted, now you would have a lot of pissed off folks and promoters if the main event was cancelled because thousands spend money on travel arrangements, obviously their ticket purchase. It creates a mess that almost forces the main event fighters to go through with it, regardless of the shenanigans involved.

Frankly, this is more than likely why Garcia did it. He knew the fight was going to go through regardless, most casuals wouldn't know the backroom drama and only the result of the match which helps his star status. Taking the penalty was fine for what it would do for his earnings in the future. Beating Haney was simply the stepping stool Garcia needed to get folks paying attention.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Another woke p****.

Imagine Arguello suing Pryor for battery. Unthinkable.

Nobody is defending Ryan cheating, but a professional fighter suing another pro fighter for battery in a pro fight is one of the WEAKEST moves I’ve ever seen.

I agree with the bolded. There's no defending Ryan's test result nor him not making weight, but I too think Devin suing Ryan for battery is not a good look. It's not as if Ryan beat his a$$ while Devin was unsuspectingly ordering fries at a burger joint.

Now, if the beating was so bad that Haney can no longer fight for a living, I might feel different, but Haney finished the fight on his feet, won more rounds than Ryan did in my opinion and is still yapping about being one of the best in the sport.

Sort of reminds me of the guy who fakes a work injury only to sue for workers compensation, but is still out lifting weights and doing dangerous physical activity at home or on the streets...

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

It's amazing how they support the guy that cheated and make a villain out of the boxer that was cheated.

Nah, Ryan's filth for not making weight, testing dirty and for the ignorance his mouth spills. Devin just became a guy that hired an ambulance chaser looking to make money by faking slips and falls.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I agree with the bolded. There's no defending Ryan's test result nor him not making weight, but I too think Devin suing Ryan for battery is not a good look. It's not as if Ryan beat his a$$ while Devin was unsuspectingly ordering fries at a burger joint.

Now, if the beating was so bad that Haney can no longer fight for a living, I might feel different, but Haney finished the fight on his feet, won more rounds than Ryan did in my opinion and is still yapping about being one of the best in the sport.

Sort of reminds me of the guy who fakes a work injury only to sue for workers compensation, but is still out lifting weights and doing dangerous physical activity at home or on the streets...

100%. It’s one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen in boxing. Which says a lot…