Robeisy Ramirez Reportedly Has An Orbital Fracture

[crimsonfalcon07]

They put a video in Facebook and Instagram and you can see the elbow hitting right on left eye, clearly intentional too.

I saw that video, but the most blatant one looked more like he was trying to throw a left hook, and his glove got caught on Ramirez's forearm, and Ramirez held his glove against his hip. Momentum turned it into an elbow. He had maybe a handful of moments that could be turned into possible elbow attempts, and the one in the 4th round was clearly him missing a punch and Robeisy running into his forearm. But nobody seems to think that the flush punch that landed could possibly have had any effect?

It's crazy how much furor people have over this, but people don't care about fouls other times. People love to crap on Loma for "losing" to Salido, but don't seem to notice that he weighed in as a welterweight for a featherweight bout, nor that he landed over 60 low blows.



More recently, people want to pretend that Dubois' low blow wasn't, but don't want to acknowledge that he had already landed more than a dozen low blows on Usyk before the controversial one.

Frankly, this bout was barely worth mentioning from the perspective of fouls, IMO. There was very little that looked even close to deliberate that couldn't also be blamed on Ramirez pinning gloves at the wrong time. He does that regularly on the inside, and, by the way, that's illegal in boxing too. On the most blatant "elbow," in the social media video, you can see him using his forearm to maintain contact vs Espinoza, and you can even see him bring his own elbow up as if to elbow Espinoza. That's pretty normal in rough fights. I've been hit hundreds of times with elbows fighting on the inside in boxing rules fights, and very few were deliberate, especially when both fighters are skirting the edges of the rules.

[HisExcellency]

Lol I can’t believe his Mexican opponent is 6’1 (my height) but fights at Featherweight!

[paulf]

I friggin told you idiots - dude didnt just 'no mas' off a jab.

[garfios]

I recall seeing an elbow on one of the replays during the telecast, but could be wrong. Didn't have a sound mind while watching it, lol. Sucks though because it's not a clean win and really spoils the victory.

If is an accident and you won so be it, but if you cheat using other weapons than your fists, in this case a pointed bone like the elbow, repeatedly, you're not a good guy and putting another fellow fighter in real danger, like they don't have enough.

[garfios]

I saw that video, but the most blatant one looked more like he was trying to throw a left hook, and his glove got caught on Ramirez's forearm, and Ramirez held his glove against his hip. Momentum turned it into an elbow. He had maybe a handful of moments that could be turned into possible elbow attempts, and the one in the 4th round was clearly him missing a punch and Robeisy running into his forearm. But nobody seems to think that the flush punch that landed could possibly have had any effect?

It's crazy how much furor people have over this, but people don't care about fouls other times. People love to crap on Loma for "losing" to Salido, but don't seem to notice that he weighed in as a welterweight for a featherweight bout, nor that he landed over 60 low blows.



More recently, people want to pretend that Dubois' low blow wasn't, but don't want to acknowledge that he had already landed more than a dozen low blows on Usyk before the controversial one.

Frankly, this bout was barely worth mentioning from the perspective of fouls, IMO. There was very little that looked even close to deliberate that couldn't also be blamed on Ramirez pinning gloves at the wrong time. He does that regularly on the inside, and, by the way, that's illegal in boxing too. On the most blatant "elbow," in the social media video, you can see him using his forearm to maintain contact vs Espinoza, and you can even see him bring his own elbow up as if to elbow Espinoza. That's pretty normal in rough fights. I've been hit hundreds of times with elbows fighting on the inside in boxing rules fights, and very few were deliberate, especially when both fighters are skirting the edges of the rules.

He threw the left elbow and hit him with the right one, there wasn't accident. He was too close for a left hook so he used his elbows, you can see the arm turning and became the elbow, left and right the latter been the one that did the damage. Salido fouled Loma like it was no tomorrow, the weight issue, was Loma's decision, I didn't commented on that. He was dirty as fvk. The furor is because it was intentional, and we were expecting a clean hard fought fight, it was anticlimactic the way it ended. He was frustrated because he couldn't get to him, the last punch was a grazing blow. Go to yt and do the search, I thought it was the left elbow, but no, it was the right, two elbows thrown on the same sequence. Pinning a glove? So I said fvk you and you shoot me with a *******, common man, the guy threw elbows with intentions out frustration, the first fight he didn't used them because he was getting his shots in, not this time. He fought dirty plain and simple, and now we have a guy with a fractured orbital bone.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

He threw the left elbow and hit him with the right one, there wasn't accident. He was too close for a left hook so he used his elbows, you can see the arm turning and became the elbow, left and right the latter been the one that did the damage

OK, sounds as if you're saying Espinoza is a dirty fighter but are not actually blaming the busted right orbital socket on a left elbow from Espinoza...

[Joseph]

Wow. Apologies to Ramirez. I was overly critical on him quitting but this is at least a little more understandable.

I hope they make this a trilogy and Ramirez sparks that ass. He was warming up.

[garfios]

OK, sounds as if you're saying Espinoza is a dirty fighter but are not actually blaming the busted right orbital socket on a left elbow from Espinoza...

I don't know what you mean, but what I'm saying is that he did hit him with the right elbow after throwing the left, it was a one two elbow combination, so yes it was a dirty move, they fought a full 12 rounds before I didn't see any blatant dirty moves by any of the two, I was surprised he did that, but I knew why, I never thought he would resort to that. A dirty fighter? He din't came to the ring with that label, pretty sure he left with it.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

I don't know what you mean, but what I'm saying is that he did hit him with the right elbow after throwing the left, it was a one two combination, so yes it was a dirty move, they fought a full 12 rounds before I didn't see any blatant dirty moves by any of the two, I was surprised he did that, but I knew why, I never thought he would resort to that. A dirty fighter? He din't came to the ring with that label, pretty sure he left with it.

I don't want to label him a dirty fighter, but I too saw a few elbows that looked intentional in my opinion. I just don't believe that the orbital problem was due to an elbow. Some folks have claimed that the elbow that caused the orbital problem happened in round 5 at around the 2:15 minute mark. After reviewing that minute mark it does appear that an elbow could have landed, but if it lands, it lands on the right side of the head around the ear, not in the right eye area....

[CubanGuyNYC]

Yup and big thank you for sharing cause I noticed the site has gotten slower since the new acquisition Lol
They are still saying that it was an elbow
I watched a few YouTube videos and never saw the elbow hit him
I did see the forearm

You’re very welcome, bro. I was unable to see the fight in real time on Saturday and was only able to catch some highlights on YouTube, where no mention was made of elbows. I just watched a clip on Facebook, where an elbow very clearly hits Ramirez on the right eye. And, frankly, it looks quite intentional, like it wasn’t even on the follow-through. In fact, the ref warns Espinoza about hitting with the elbow — something I was unaware of till now.

I will add this: I rewatched the first meeting between these two a couple of days before the rematch. I noticed something I didn’t recall seeing before: Espinoza threw at least one elbow on the follow-through. This is an old (dirty) tactic, one which many fighters have employed, including the great Roberto Duran. Now, I’m of the opinion that a fight is a fight, and bending the rules is just the way it is sometimes; but when a fighter’s orbital bone is broken from a dirty tactic and is forced to “quit”, as it appears in this case that it was, that changes things. In a moment of emotional disgust, I jumped the gun in my criticism of Robeisy immediately following the match. I retract that now. I know Ramirez isn’t reading this, but I apologize to him.