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    #71
    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

    Unlike team sports, homefield usually relies on who is the top dog. Been that way since at least the invention of TV. Goes with the sport. If you are the top dog, you call the shots. I consider it a perk of being the top dog. What's the point of being ''a boss'' if you can't call the shots ?

    Was he gifted any home fights he should have lost ? Which of his opponents backyard would AJ have problems in ?
    Personally, I'm tired of this hometown favoritism. Does it exist ? Not to the extent it changes a losers career.
    Judges will get called out on their biased scorecards.

    While AJ is far from an ATG, he was the holder of more belts at one time the longest since Wlad.
    On the bold, that is part of the hype I'm pointing out. You're hyping him up to be a similar level to Wlad and he was far from it. He is an above average boxer who benefitted his entire career (see Olympics) from homefield advantage - and yes he apparently got a gift there - and from favorable matchmaking.

    It is a huge benefit to always fight at home; even if you don't need the judges, there are still other obvious advantages to it, and again, having the judges if you need them is a huge bonus for a fighter. It means they just have to fight to be competitive. The pressure is really on the other guy to do something special.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

      Bull**** lol don’t rewrite history. the majority of Americans said Wilder was the best of this era
      ? Well he may well be 2nd best, and he drew with Fury in the first fight. Spare me the 'it wasn't a draw' BS - he KD him twice and the first 6 rounds there was hardly any activiity.

      I don't really recall anyone touting Wilder like that though. Seems like everyone has said that Wilder has a legit chance vs anyone due to his power, but he will get outboxed by virtually everyone unless and and until that right hand connects clean.

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        #73
        Well to have Josh beating usyk easy by ko then I'd agree many overrated josh. But many like myself thought it was a picke m fight so was more realistic

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          #74
          Originally posted by El-Malo- View Post
          Reminds me of Golovkin, but AJ has taken on better competition

          Both where overhyped in a weak division and once they stepped up the competition they started to fall apart
          Lol...GGG beat the consensus number 1 pfp fighter today, twice in most people's eyes. Not even close. Again, another comment which is devoid of reality. When GGG stepped up, he had tougher fights. When AJ fought an average guy he got KOed. When he fought a smaller man, he got outclassed.

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            #75
            Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
            I am really tired of boxing fans. It’s such a sh/t group of fans mostly.

            Fan reaction to AJ’s loss should be a lesson to all pro fighters: Make your money and get out. Fans do not actually care about the best fighting the best. They want to see a fighter go undefeated and get either a TKO1 or a 120-108 decision. If they lose, or win a close fight, they are trash, bums, hype jobs, and overrated.

            Do not listen to fans. They say they want the best vs the best, then it happens, one of the fighters lose, all of a sudden their career needs to end because they lost while fighting the best.

            AJ has fought the best fighters in his weight class and tried to make fights with Fury and Wilder. Those fights not happening were not his fault.

            My advice to any pro boxer that stumbles across this: Fight no-hopers for the rest of your career and get out. These fans are not worth entertaining. Fighting the best, win or lose, does nothing for them. So, stop trying to satisfy these cretins.

            Canelo, Lomachenko and Joshua take on the best, more than the rest of the top fighters. But they are the most hated by fans because they constantly fight the best and don’t always look like God while doing it. Because, you know, that is what happens when you constantly fight the best. You will look flawed at some point.

            It also seems like fighters get much more praise when they are fighting no hopers and mopping the floor with them in one sided beatdowns while calling out the best names for show.

            Promoters/networks should go back to the good old days where fighters fought 4-5 times a month vs dudes with either losing records, or records barely over .500 win percentage. This will pad a boxer’s resume with 100 fights and he will then get praised for looking so dominant in so many fights.

            Oleksandr Usyk, if you are reading this, do not fight Tyson Fury. If you fight him and he wins, you’re a hype job, overrated, and should retire and just go into politics full-time like Vitali Klitschko. If you can’t beat the best 10 of 10 times, boxing is not for you.
            Lol cry me a river.

            Canelo and AJ had the same formula - get everything in their favor and take limited risk while having the judges ready if needed. Loma actually did challenge himself and 135 has shown to be a little too much for him so far. He does get too much sh.it really but yes a lot of fans are dumb.

            Acting like AJ and Canelo were taking on so many risks, lol, that's the joke on boxing today. Anyone buying that sh.it, idk how you make it through the day. Just devoid of reality.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              Stop the BS. Nobody ever claimed he was some ATG like Golovkin and Lomachenko, some unbeatable monster like Golovkin etc.
              Is that the new talking point. Pathetic

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                #77
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

                He has beaten more top 10 HW's than Fury and Wilder combined.
                Because he was a 'star' and was able to put some (often times old, shot to bits) fighter with a name in front of him, at home, who they pushed into the top 10 so you could cheer your boy on and act like he is great, spouting that meaningless stat lol. You're pointing out exactly why he was so overhyped, don't you get it lol

                Fury taking on Wilder twice is way more dangerous than anything AJ has ever done. The guy left his house for 1 fight and got KOed by Andy Ruiz.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                  Well to have Josh beating usyk easy by ko then I'd agree many overrated josh. But many like myself thought it was a picke m fight so was more realistic
                  My issue is how his resume has been built, and also how he has looked in his fights. He has never really coasted vs solid opposition. He has fought all his fights at home. He got KOed when he stepped out of his comfort zone vs Ruiz. And was outboxed pretty sadly by a smaller man in Usyk. He looked pretty poor in that fight. When you start feeling bad for a guy constantly in a fight, you know it's bad.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                    Nah, he is still clearly top 5 guy in division.
                    I wonder what his resume and record would be if he had to fight all of those guys on his list in a neutral or away environment, like most every other boxer has to do in their career?

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                      Stop the BS. Nobody ever claimed he was some ATG like Golovkin and Lomachenko, some unbeatable monster like Golovkin etc.
                      Don't even put AJ in the same sentence as Loma or GGG. They never fought once really in their own backyard. They travelled their whole careers. They weren't gifted an Olympic medal in their own backyard. They never got KOed by a little roly poly boy the second they stepped out of their comfort zone. They never got outclassed like AJ did the other night.

                      Admittedly Usyk is a fine fighter but AJ is still a couple weight classes above him really. The fact that he looked so out of his depths against a smaller man like that is sad.

                      No one would ever say AJ is some unbeatable monster now, you're right. You'd have to be a complete idiot to say that after he got KOed by Ruiz.

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