AJ is the biggest hype job of this generation and it isn't close

[Boxing-1013]

Is this guy for real?


Let's see, Golovkin decided to sit in a dead division, he was contempt to wait for that Canelo payday for years. No one said anything because he was hiding under the guise that he wanted to unify all the belts yet his actions contradict that. When he did step up and fought Jacob's whose the same type caliber of fighter as Ruiz, he struggled like crazy. He was lucky to get the W, as a matter of fact that fight should've had a rematch but not a word from Golovkin yet Joshua and Ruiz did have a rematch and he got the W easily. And then we have Derevyanchenko (whose in the same league as Dylllan Whyte) another fighter that Golovkin should've had no problem beating and yet he had to dig deep and barely sc****d by with the W. You bring up Usyk being the smaller fighter yet Golovkin also fought the smaller fighter coming up in weight in Canelo and most Golovkin fans kept bragging how he was going to knock out the ginger no problem. Not a lot of people where giving Canelo a chance to pull off the upset and yet we all saw what happened, he made him look ordinary at times and practically killed that boogeyman nonsense(If it makes you feel better I also had Golovkin winning the first fight btw). He cried that Canelo ran too much and what happened in the second fight? Canelo took the fight to him and beat the "Mexican style" out of him, he whooped him bad that Golovkin like Joshua ran away after the fight
You can "claim" and "quote" all the articles you want but that fight was too close to call (I had Canelo winning) and it could've gone either way and unfortunately for Golovkin that L is going to stay on his record. Years from now boxing analysts are going to remember and tell the story how the Canelo beat "The boogeyman" Golovkin. Luckily for Joshua he still has the rematch to try and get a win over Usyk, the same way Golovkin had a second chance to fight Canelo. Finally isn't it funny how Canelo only took less than two years to unify all the belts yet Golovkin had an entire career and just couldn't get it done.

You claiming Canelo and Joshua are protected and manufactured fighters just doesn't add up as much as you would like everyone to believe. Specially with Canelo, his gone and done more than anything Golovkin ever dreamed of achieving. Once he unifies 168 Canelo needs to step up and fight Benavidez or if he goes down he needs to fight Charlo, the same Charlo that's fighting in the same weight class as Golovkin and yet again the "boogeyman" won't even mention him. He rather go and fight in another country against another no hoper, who would have guessed otherwise

I'm not reading all that dude. I wrote 2 sentences. If you could make a real point in response you wouldn't need to write all of that garbage.

[Boxing-1013]

Only a total bum would say Wilder drew that fight. Easy win for Fury. By about 6 points. Wilder won 2 rounds

You have no business scoring a fight if you think Wilder won a max of 2 rounds. Typical insight from someone so wrapped up in tribal factors that they can't put that aside for 2 seconds and just score a fight.

The first 6 rounds had hardly any action. Giving Fury any more than 4 of those would be insane. He did win nearly every second of the last 6 rounds, but he did get caught twice, meaning the last 6 were basically a wash.

Fury outlanded Wilder in each of the first 6 rounds - but in 4 rounds it was by 2 punches, in 1 round it was by 1 punch. Fury didn't land double digit punches in any of those five rounds. Wilder punches harder than Fury on average, in that fight anyway, when they both land. There was hardly any domination in those first 6 rounds. Pathetic for anyone to try and act like there was.

Again, anyone saying that fight was dominant on the scorecard from Fury dksab. But there are many people like that so you're in good company.

[-Kev-]

Lol cry me a river.

Canelo and AJ had the same formula - get everything in their favor and take limited risk while having the judges ready if needed. Loma actually did challenge himself and 135 has shown to be a little too much for him so far. He does get too much sh.it really but yes a lot of fans are dumb.

Acting like AJ and Canelo were taking on so many risks, lol, that's the joke on boxing today. Anyone buying that sh.it, idk how you make it through the day. Just devoid of reality.

You are really looking like you don't know what you are talking about and are just interested in trolling.

I am not sure how you can say Lomachenko challenged himself but Canelo and AJ have not. That is just ridiculous and extremely biased to the point that it looks like you are trolling.

Canelo has fought:

Mayweather
GGG 2x
Cotto
Jacobs
Lara
Trout
Kovalev
Callum Smith
BJS
Rhodes
Miguel Vazquez
Kirkland
Angulo

AJ has fought:

W. Klitschko
Whyte
Usyk
Parker
Pulev
Martin
Povetkin
Ruiz 2x
Takam
Breazeale

Lomachenko has fought:

Salido
T. Lopez
Rigondeaux
Russell Jr
Pedraza
Linares
Walters
Campbell
Sosa
Nakatani
R. Martinez
Crolla

I am sorry, but how exactly does Lomachenko's resume of tough fighters he has fought, so much better than Canelo's and AJ's? Sounds like bias to me.

Please tell us what risks Lomachenko took that Canelo has not taken? Elaborate. Is Russell Jr better than Lara? is Salido better than GGG? Is Pedraza better than Jacobs? Is Rigondeaux better than Mayweather? IS Walters better than Kovalev? Who are Nakatani, Sosa, Crolla, Martinez better than on the list I made for Canelo?

In order to match head to head with Lomachenko's resume, I would need to add fighters like Mosley, Cintron, Matt Hatton, Baldomir, Ndou, Khan, L. Smith, Chavez Jr, Josesito Lopez, Alfonso Gomez. Basically the lower tier fighters Canelo has fought. That's how you can match them head to some with Lomachenko's bottom tier, top opponents.

You absolutely can't look at their resume and say Lomachenko took more risks unless you are extremely high. The caliber of some of the fighters Lomachenko fought, Canelo was fighting before he could legally drink alcohol.

Hell, the better comparison is actually Lomachenko to AJ's resume. Both fought a bunch of top/solid fighters, both have 2 upset losses to fighters that most fans would agree they should have beaten.

Speaking about reality, I think you should consider coming back to it.

[SunDiego-]

You are really looking like you don't know what you are talking about and are just interested in trolling.

I am not sure how you can say Lomachenko challenged himself but Canelo and AJ have not. That is just ridiculous and extremely biased to the point that it looks like you are trolling.

Canelo has fought:

Mayweather
GGG 2x
Cotto
Jacobs
Lara
Trout
Kovalev
Callum Smith
BJS
Rhodes
Miguel Vazquez
Kirkland
Angulo

AJ has fought:

W. Klitschko
Whyte
Usyk
Parker
Pulev
Martin
Povetkin
Ruiz 2x
Takam
Breazeale

Lomachenko has fought:

Salido
T. Lopez
Rigondeaux
Russell Jr
Pedraza
Linares
Walters
Campbell
Sosa
Nakatani
R. Martinez
Crolla

I am sorry, but how exactly does Lomachenko's resume of tough fighters he has fought, so much better than Canelo's and AJ's? Sounds like bias to me.

Please tell us what risks Lomachenko took that Canelo has not taken? Elaborate. Is Russell Jr better than Lara? is Salido better than GGG? Is Pedraza better than Jacobs? Is Rigondeaux better than Mayweather? IS Walters better than Kovalev? Who are Nakatani, Sosa, Crolla, Martinez better than on the list I made for Canelo?

In order to match head to head with Lomachenko's resume, I would need to add fighters like Mosley, Cintron, Matt Hatton, Baldomir, Ndou, Khan, L. Smith, Chavez Jr, Josesito Lopez, Alfonso Gomez. Basically the lower tier fighters Canelo has fought. That's how you can match them head to some with Lomachenko's bottom tier, top opponents.

You absolutely can't look at their resume and say Lomachenko took more risks unless you are extremely high. The caliber of some of the fighters Lomachenko fought, Canelo was fighting before he could legally drink alcohol.

Hell, the better comparison is actually Lomachenko to AJ's resume. Both fought a bunch of top/solid fighters, both have 2 upset losses to fighters that most fans would agree they should have beaten.

Speaking about reality, I think you should consider coming back to it.

Don't bother Kev, if you can't sum everything up in two sentences it's not worth reading


Poor guy hasn't recovered from the night Golovkin lost to Canelo and Teofimo easily beating Loma probably still gives him nightmares

[Toffee]

13 pages discussing whether AJ is just a hypejob?

Surely everyone realises that hypejobs don't unify belts, become two time Champions, and beat voluntaries and mandatories over a decent Heavyweight reign.

If you thought he was the best ever then you probably overrated him. You could argue his commercial value is higher than his ability - that's just good business.

But he's certainly no hypejob. He's been a genuine champion.

[Marchegiano]

some **** I deleted

Nice sig, that **** is hilarious

[Boxing-1013]

You are really looking like you don't know what you are talking about and are just interested in trolling.

I am not sure how you can say Lomachenko challenged himself but Canelo and AJ have not. That is just ridiculous and extremely biased to the point that it looks like you are trolling.

Canelo has fought:

Mayweather
GGG 2x
Cotto
Jacobs
Lara
Trout
Kovalev
Callum Smith
BJS
Rhodes
Miguel Vazquez
Kirkland
Angulo

AJ has fought:

W. Klitschko
Whyte
Usyk
Parker
Pulev
Martin
Povetkin
Ruiz 2x
Takam
Breazeale

Lomachenko has fought:

Salido
T. Lopez
Rigondeaux
Russell Jr
Pedraza
Linares
Walters
Campbell
Sosa
Nakatani
R. Martinez
Crolla

I am sorry, but how exactly does Lomachenko's resume of tough fighters he has fought, so much better than Canelo's and AJ's? Sounds like bias to me.

Please tell us what risks Lomachenko took that Canelo has not taken? Elaborate. Is Russell Jr better than Lara? is Salido better than GGG? Is Pedraza better than Jacobs? Is Rigondeaux better than Mayweather? IS Walters better than Kovalev? Who are Nakatani, Sosa, Crolla, Martinez better than on the list I made for Canelo?

In order to match head to head with Lomachenko's resume, I would need to add fighters like Mosley, Cintron, Matt Hatton, Baldomir, Ndou, Khan, L. Smith, Chavez Jr, Josesito Lopez, Alfonso Gomez. Basically the lower tier fighters Canelo has fought. That's how you can match them head to some with Lomachenko's bottom tier, top opponents.

You absolutely can't look at their resume and say Lomachenko took more risks unless you are extremely high. The caliber of some of the fighters Lomachenko fought, Canelo was fighting before he could legally drink alcohol.

Hell, the better comparison is actually Lomachenko to AJ's resume. Both fought a bunch of top/solid fighters, both have 2 upset losses to fighters that most fans would agree they should have beaten.

Speaking about reality, I think you should consider coming back to it.

You've got to be kidding me.

It's about taking fights that you don't know you can win, and that you don't have the judges in your back pocket for. Loma has gone on the road and fought, and taken on tough fights at 135 as he moved up in weight.

AJ and Canelo have fought in their own backyards (Canelo's backyard being Vegas in that scenario) where they can pick the best name available, have the judges on standby if needed, and can even use the terms of the fight to bully their opponents.

I know you're a Canelosuperfan, and he is fighting great, but we can't ignore his very selective choices in his career - he takes on a good name, COMPLETELY on Canelo's own terms, often times at a serious weight or timing advantage for Canelo.

Those are not real tests. Super A side fighters do not take real tests. This is just how it goes, it's logic 101. When you have the leverage, can get away with doing it, and have much to gain/lose by winning/losing, you will stack the deck in your favor.

Acting like Canelo or AJ fights have been at face value is idiocy. I'm not even a Loma fan but he certainly has truly tested himself in the truest sense of the word, way moreso than those two guys.

You can try and spin it however you want but it's obvious. It's pathetic to act otherwise. All 3 guys are good fighters, I'm not picking a winner among the 3 of them in this scenario. But Canelo and AJ have definitely been way more selective with their opponents than Loma.

When has Canelo or AJ ever fought on the road? Fighting at home means you get every decision in your favor - ask Canelo about that. It means you get the bell rung 6 seconds early when you're about to get KOed - ask AJ about that.

[Boxing-1013]

Don't bother Kev, if you can't sum everything up in two sentences it's not worth reading


Poor guy hasn't recovered from the night Golovkin lost to Canelo and Teofimo easily beating Loma probably still gives him nightmares

I had no dog at all in the Loma/Teo fight. It played out more or less as I thought. Loma cautious early, and then coming on late. I didn't think it would take him 6 rounds to get going, but who cares. Better man won on the night, that's all I care about when I watch fights.

That's why the 2 Canelo-GGG fights are a shame. Not because I care whether some 1/4 Asian, 3/4 Russian Kazakh gets a win. I have more in common with Canelo than I do GGG.

The shame of those 2 fights are that Canelo had no business getting to 6 rounds in either one of them. Anyone arguing he did has really low standards for a fighter, and/or dksab.

GGG haters and Canelo fanboys can revel in that 'victory' but they don't realize how pathetic they look, acting like that was a legit win lol.

How low are your standards to act like Canelo could get 6 rounds in that fight, it's pathetic honestly

[Boxing-1013]

Nice sig, that **** is hilarious

I love how he is so sure that AJ would be Fury's best win too - as if KOing Wilder on the road, and upsetting Wlad on the road out of nowhere, can't possibly compare to beating AJ, who just got embarrassed by Ruiz. Insane thinking by some of these fans.

[Boxing-1013]

13 pages discussing whether AJ is just a hypejob?

Surely everyone realises that hypejobs don't unify belts, become two time Champions, and beat voluntaries and mandatories over a decent Heavyweight reign.

If you thought he was the best ever then you probably overrated him. You could argue his commercial value is higher than his ability - that's just good business.

But he's certainly no hypejob. He's been a genuine champion.

In an era where there are like 6 belts, being a multi-time champion could actually be a point for someone being a hypejob, not against it. You lose your belt, then find a way to steal one etc.

I say that if he fought all of his fights so far in a neutral venue/judges/fans/refs, he would definitely have more than the 2 losses he has now. That's one way I would view whether someone is a hype job or not.

He has stepped out of his comfort zone roughly 1 time, and got embarrassed sadly. It he did that against the other 10 solid fighters on his resume, there are definitely a few more Ls coming.