Pacquiao Knocking out Cotto doesnt make sense.

[BALLISTIC]

oscar can hit harder than manny
so could hatton at 140

so could cotto..
but pacs speed is diff from shanes and throws close punches....

and if pac smells it..like he did hatton
cotto is down..

i just hope all goes well and this fight happens..
bottom line...talk is useless until fight week..

[Beater_of_ass]

The reason Mosley admitted defeat was because of the alliance between Arum and Oscar. Do you honestly think that Mosley would be trying to get the rematch in Vegas if he didn't feel ripped off? There's been plenty of shady decisions that have been unanimous (Dawson-Johnson being one). Mosley landed more power punches and was the aggressor in the championship rounds. Shane is speaking his true feelings about the fight now, because he sees of how Cotto is going on to fight Pacquiao without cleaning up unfinished business with Margarito (plaster or not). Has Cotto said, "I am willing to fight Mosley in Vegas?"

Everyones stated almost everything I want to respond to you. But looking at those last two rounds, again, Cotto was the one hitting Mosley with the more accurate and far cleaner shots, if all you look at is who is the aggressive fighter and determine them as a winner how in the hell has Mayweather ever won a fight in his career? But my main gripe is why Mosley wants a rematch. Mosley never approached Cotto, he spent all his resources/time on Paq and Mayweather and both of them turned him down. (Cotto had Clottey and Jennings during this time.) Prior to the Cotto/Clottey signing Mosley turned down Berto and Clottey two of the top 5 WW in his division.

Now he wants Cotto because he couldn't get anyone else and it bit him in the ass. Whats even worse is that in the first fight, HE ACCEPTED THE ****ING DEAL FOR THE FIGHT TO BE IN MSG. So he needs to just STFU about getting robbed he agreed to it, but instead he wants a rematch to a fight he LOST, then he wants to make the rules about where it is to be held. Are you kidding me?

[Beater_of_ass]

I respect your opinion but as a PAC fan, I think he changed his style into "hit/combo and move away ... until opponent if weak ... then move for the finish mode " from the "search and destroy mode" in the barrera, morales, marquez fights. But I'm very wary on Cotto's timing. PAC could get away with Marquez's shots but I'm not sure of Cotto's. Nothing in the last 3 fights did I get any hints on how he could take a bigger man's shot. Hopefully, he could. On the other hand, the backpedalling of Cotto in his fights with Clottey and Margarito are either stamina issues, chin/balance issues, or just another strategy to win depending on your opinion. Hoping for good fight between the two if it ever gets signed.

I'll agree with you for the sake of argument and say that Cotto does fade in the late rounds. But somehow, aside from the Margarito fight, which, even in the 10th he had a great round till about 10 secs to go he got hurt, up until that point he was winning the round solidly. Well... I can't find the round by round scorecards for the fight but I think Cotto won either the 11th or 12th on all the judges scorecard. Not to mention he KO'd Judah in the 11th, and he won the last round definitely in the Clottey, and arguably the 10th and 11th. Just because he isn't coming forward doesn't mean he isn't losing or tiring.

People will bring up how Clottey wasn't punching enough and that isn't his style... well then wouldn't it be a good idea to make that type of fighter chase you? How exactly is implying strategy through a fight ever a bad thing? Cotto may have had his worst % fight against Clottey cut or no cut, the man has impregnable defense. So Cotto decided to box him and catch him coming in, watch the last 20 seconds of the 10th round and you see that Clottey got stunned and I think that is the main reason he stopped punching he got hit by a Cotto left hook and thought the exact same as Mosley. "That ****ing hurt, I better be careful." I paraphrased but don't believe me? Check near the bottom of the page and see for yourself.

[brick wall]

I hear all these predictions of Cotto being Knocked out by Pacquiao within 6-7 rounds someeven lower.
How does a completely drained Oscar De la Hoya stay on his feet with no problem?
How does Cotto take Everything Mosley Margarito and Clottey have to give but somehow cant take a natural 135lbers punches??
Some say speed. but Mosley fought 135 at one point and pretty much has the fastest hands at Welterweight. Cotto just timed him perfectly which will happen to the little filipino.
I dont get it!!! logic says that either the smaller man still adjusting to the heavier weight gets KOed or it goes the distance.
I say Cotto KOs pac in 6 rounds.
Beristains just salty that both his fighters couldnt pull a W on the Pacman

don't be ******...that's why it's called predictions because it has not happened yet. anybody can make his own predictions and nobody can take that away from anybody. if a respected trainer like berestain predicts a pacquiao win then so be it. if you don't agree with him then don't whine like a *****. make your own predictions too and justify it as much as you can. if you don't wanna see other people's predictions then you should not be posting in boxing forums.

[Iceta]

Compubox had Mosley throwing more but landing less than Cotto percentage wise watch the video man you dont know what the hell your talkin bout bro.

your conspiracies of arum and oscar need to go bro. Face it Mosley was beaten and a unanimous decision wasnt debated by anyone by FMJ fans who didnt want COtto to fight FMj and Cotto haters who down Cotto on anything he does.

The fight was dominance by Cotto. he outsmarted Mosley and countered him like a master . I DVRed the fight and rewatche dit plenty. To give mosley the decision would be robbery

This is a fanboy post if I ever saw one. See, you just automatically assume that just because someone is not a fan of Cotto, it automatically makes them a Floyd hugger. That's probably the case with some people, but not me. I'm hoping Marquez breaks Floyd's ass in half. And you are dead wrong about Cotto having a percentage edge in power punches at the end of that fight. Mosley had a big edge in that category even though they both landed the same amount of overall punches according to compubox. That alone is why your post is so ridiculous and over the top about how it would be a robbery if Mosley got the decision.

[Iceta]

What are you talking about yea he would smother Cotto but not throw anything. He feared getting countered cause he was stunned. Thats how mosley works. he was in his face but just gave him a pitter jab and stared half the time. The last 15 seconds he didnt throw a single punch for fear of getting countered and even more hurt to look worse than he already was looking

Cotto clearly won the 11th and 12th everyone says it but cotto downgraders.



watch it again bro

No sir. Cotto didn't win the 12th round in my eyes. He ran in that round like Winky Wright did in that fight with Jermaine Taylor. The reason why Cotto didn't get hit that much in that round is because he was literally back pedaling. And he didn't land any punches hardly at all in that round. So that round should go to the aggressor. And that was Mosley.

[fcastro1]

I finally see it, this post made me realize why people think Cotto is going on a downward spiral. Cotto's fights that you just mentioned were incredibly hard fighters/fights for anyone, Mayweather won't even fight 2/3 of them and Judah have Mayweather in trouble till the later half of the fight. Cotto isn't fading he's facing premium competition and he's in flat out brawls with these guys and for some reason people see this as him being bad. Didn't he win 2/3 of these brawls? And just like Paq is now, before the Margarito fight Cotto was being viewed as unstoppable until he faced a bigger man, in Margarito in which, tainted the fight was or not, he got beat and it showed there is a way to stop Cotto.

Manny is in that point of his career right now, the "Invincible" stage. His last three fights he looked extremely impressive I wont deny but all 3 were against names, but not elite fighters. Hatton is overrated he was a big man in a weak division and his last 3 fights prior to Paq you could see his terrible weight gain/loss in between fights caught up with him. Diaz... put Paq against Baby Bull Diaz and see if he looks half as good, that sums that up easily. As for De La Hoya he's never won a mega-fight. Mosley, he lost twice... Tito, he lost... Hopkins, he lost. Paq was put in against people who were perfect to show off his skills and that's exactly what he did. Cotto could have done the same, look what he did to Jennings and Gomez, you can make anyone look good.

People say that Paq is untouchable, why? Because of his last 3 fights, I said before I'll say it again you base a guy of his career not off of what he has done recently. He lost to Morales, draw with JMM in the first fight and barely won the second by a single point. You don't lose, draw and barely win by not being hit. So please, Paq is not untouchable his last three fights were there to show what Paq can do which is impressive, no doubt. But if a guy isn't in there with someone to be a threat to him you can't put much into that persons stock, look at what happened to Ortiz this passed weekend. I'm not saying that Paq only fights tomato cans, he's proved he doesn't but he hasn't fought anyone that is a threat to his style and that's all people see, which is...

Well Paq beat his last 3 guys easily, and Cotto didn't so Paq is obviously going to kick the **** out of him. That is the perfect definition of ignorance, talking about something yet not knowing a thing of what you speak of.

well oscar and hatton didnt look so awfull before they faced pac. against floyd they both gave him hard fights and won their next fights. this has happened throughout pacs career, when he demolishes his opponents they suddenly become bums not so good or we knew that pac would do that. pleez people thought delahoya and hatton were going to beat him.

pac gets discriminated for demolishing fighters. if they were close im sure you will be giving him more credit. marquez and cotto have tough close fights and they get credit.look at pacs last 4 fights. he has fought in 4 different divisions, defeating hofs, champs and linear champs, to say they were pushovers is baloney.

[Iceta]

Everyones stated almost everything I want to respond to you. But looking at those last two rounds, again, Cotto was the one hitting Mosley with the more accurate and far cleaner shots, if all you look at is who is the aggressive fighter and determine them as a winner how in the hell has Mayweather ever won a fight in his career? But my main gripe is why Mosley wants a rematch. Mosley never approached Cotto, he spent all his resources/time on Paq and Mayweather and both of them turned him down. (Cotto had Clottey and Jennings during this time.) Prior to the Cotto/Clottey signing Mosley turned down Berto and Clottey two of the top 5 WW in his division.

Now he wants Cotto because he couldn't get anyone else and it bit him in the ass. Whats even worse is that in the first fight, HE ACCEPTED THE ****ING DEAL FOR THE FIGHT TO BE IN MSG. So he needs to just STFU about getting robbed he agreed to it, but instead he wants a rematch to a fight he LOST, then he wants to make the rules about where it is to be held. Are you kidding me?

If Mosley is the one who tried to get a fight with Mayweather, doesn't he deserve some credit for that? You Cotto fans fail to realize that a lot of the reason why Mayweather didn't fight Cotto is because he brought no charisma to the table and he never personally said he wanted to fight Mayweather like Mosley did. That is another reason why I was disappointed in that decision. We would've gotten a Mosley-Mayweather match-up more than likely (not a guarantee though). But aside from that, I had Mosley winning the fight.

[Beater_of_ass]

well oscar and hatton didnt look so awfull before they faced pac. against floyd they both gave him hard fights and won their next fights. this has happened throughout pacs career, when he demolishes his opponents they suddenly become bums not so good or we knew that pac would do that. pleez people thought delahoya and hatton were going to beat him.

pac gets discriminated for demolishing fighters. if they were close im sure you will be giving him more credit. marquez and cotto have tough close fights and they get credit.look at pacs last 4 fights. he has fought in 4 different divisions, defeating hofs, champs and linear champs, to say they were pushovers is baloney.

Hatton looked ****ing terrible before his Paq fight. After 5 solid rounds against Mayweather the rest of the fight was sad to watch. Then his fight after Mayweather he was saved by the referee, he should have been KO'd in that fight. He then fires his trainer, completely ignoring the fact that his weight gain/loss runs a major toll on your body and its what hurt him more than anything else. Once Mayweather joins he takes on Paulie and he looked like garbage in that fight too, sure he won but it was anything but impressive, it was more like underwhelming, especially for who he was up against.

As for De La Hoya, I already stated why that fight was perfect for Paq. I'll say it again, Oscar has never won a mega-fight. He's won big fights like Quartey, Chavez, Vargas and I guess you could say Mayorga (Not really but I'll be nice, because I am an Oscar fan.) He lost to all his mega-fights, Tito, Hopkins, Mosley and Mayweather that's not exactly something I'd highlight in a resume. Secondly, Oscar lost like 4 of 6 fights leading up to that Manny fight and the two people he beat were Stevie Forbes and Mayorga, again not something that I'd highlight on a resume. Then in his fight before Paq, he won against Stevie Forbes but like Hatton with Paulie there was nothing that had me worry for Paq. I'm not going to say I was expecting Paq to win, I completely thought De La Hoya would, but I also wasn't expecting Manny to weigh more on the night of the fight. Everyone was thinking Oscar would be at least 155, most were thinking 160 that alone could have made the fight much different. Also I wouldn't exactly bring up Paq's last 4 fights, he barely won the 4th of which you speak which was Marquez, stick with the 3 where he was made to look like a beast.

[Beater_of_ass]

If Mosley is the one who tried to get a fight with Mayweather, doesn't he deserve some credit for that? You Cotto fans fail to realize that a lot of the reason why Mayweather didn't fight Cotto is because he brought no charisma to the table and he never personally said he wanted to fight Mayweather like Mosley did. That is another reason why I was disappointed in that decision. We would've gotten a Mosley-Mayweather match-up more than likely (not a guarantee though). But aside from that, I had Mosley winning the fight.

If your excuse for not fighting someone is because they lack charisma, that is the worst cop out I've ever heard in my career. Also, the actual reason Maywether didn't fight Cotto is because he said Cotto didn't bring enough money to the table which is another cop out and a horrible reason to blatantly avoid a fighter. Mayweather says he fights to make money, which I really don't have a problem with, however, DO NOT claim to be number 1 or the best of all time if you are avoiding the best in boxing or even worse in your own division. As far as Cotto never calling out Mayweather... Cotto's never called anyone out he always says whoever they put in front of me I'll fight them, but... I'll go one step further and just prove you have no clue what you are talking about. Question and reply at about 1:30.