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    I think Pacquiao will stop Cotto. Pacquiao is at his best when fighters try to let him assume the roll of the aggressor, unless they are a really skilled counter puncher like Juan Manuel Marquez. Cotto has counter ability, but not enough to get the respect of Pacquiao. I just don't see how Cotto is going to be effective in this fight by punching off the back foot.

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      Originally posted by 7punchcombo View Post
      God damn If that cotto comes to fight which I think will since pac isnt strong enough to hurt

      Its lights out for the pacman
      That's the only round championship round that Cotto won in that fight, the 11th. He landed some punches in that round, but does anybody notice how ineffective they were, because they didn't stop Mosley from coming forward. He won the round with that, but the punches didn't really get Mosley's respect.

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        Originally posted by Iceta View Post
        That's the only round championship round that Cotto won in that fight, the 11th. He landed some punches in that round, but does anybody notice how ineffective they were, because they didn't stop Mosley from coming forward. He won the round with that, but the punches didn't really get Mosley's respect.
        i think the only one that got some of mosley's respect is Vernon forrest.

        mosley is a bad m@f and he is superman's brother

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          Comparing the Mosley, Margarito to Pacquiao isn't the best argument. Mosley is bigger and definitely has more power that Pac, but not quite as quick or accurate. Seriously, Cotto has a tight defense that night and Mosley landed only a few real flush shots against him. At the end of one of the middle rounds (can't remember which), Cotto was hurt and backpedaled to the other side of the ring! If he had a few more seconds, Cotto would have tasted the canvas.

          Margarito is also bigger and stronger than Pac, but he's slow and doesn't have that one punch ko power that Mosley or Pac have. Remember he didn't land many punches in the first 5 rounds. However, he did manage to ko Cotto in late rounds by beating him down and pressuring him.

          I agree that it will very difficult to take out Cotto in the early rounds (but not impossible). Pacquiao is not a pressure fighter like Margarito, but if he lands solid shots on Cotto throughout the night I see him going down in the later rounds.

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            Originally posted by fightingfigs View Post
            I hear all these predictions of Cotto being Knocked out by Pacquiao within 6-7 rounds someeven lower.

            How does a completely drained Oscar De la Hoya stay on his feet with no problem?

            How does Cotto take Everything Mosley Margarito and Clottey have to give but somehow cant take a natural 135lbers punches??

            Some say speed. but Mosley fought 135 at one point and pretty much has the fastest hands at Welterweight. Cotto just timed him perfectly which will happen to the little filipino.

            I dont get it!!! logic says that either the smaller man still adjusting to the heavier weight gets KOed or it goes the distance.

            I say Cotto KOs pac in 6 rounds.

            Beristains just salty that both his fighters couldnt pull a W on the Pacman

            Because Oscar is taller and has much better defense than Cotto, and Oscar was barely putting out any offense in that fight, meaning that he was mostly focusing on not getting knocked out.
            Last edited by Dionyseus; 06-30-2009, 06:36 PM.

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              Originally posted by Iceta View Post
              That's the only round championship round that Cotto won in that fight, the 11th. He landed some punches in that round, but does anybody notice how ineffective they were, because they didn't stop Mosley from coming forward. He won the round with that, but the punches didn't really get Mosley's respect.
              it got him the win tho!!!!

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                Originally posted by Iceta View Post
                I think Pacquiao will stop Cotto. Pacquiao is at his best when fighters try to let him assume the roll of the aggressor, unless they are a really skilled counter puncher like Juan Manuel Marquez. Cotto has counter ability, but not enough to get the respect of Pacquiao. I just don't see how Cotto is going to be effective in this fight by punching off the back foot.
                pac is at his best when attacking. but as he's gone up in weight, he has learned to set traps and counterpunch because attacking someone that outweighs you isn't the recipe for success.

                cotto is gonna do exactly the same thing he always does. he is a robot.

                that said, cotto is too strong and big for pac. even if pac thoroughly outboxes cotto, all cotto needs to do is land a few big shots and pac is toast.

                cotto was landing bombs on margo. if he lands even a few bombs on pac, pac will get KOed.

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                  Originally posted by blaze778 View Post
                  Comparing the Mosley, Margarito to Pacquiao isn't the best argument. Mosley is bigger and definitely has more power that Pac, but not quite as quick or accurate. Seriously, Cotto has a tight defense that night and Mosley landed only a few real flush shots against him. At the end of one of the middle rounds (can't remember which), Cotto was hurt and backpedaled to the other side of the ring! If he had a few more seconds, Cotto would have tasted the canvas.

                  Margarito is also bigger and stronger than Pac, but he's slow and doesn't have that one punch ko power that Mosley or Pac have. Remember he didn't land many punches in the first 5 rounds. However, he did manage to ko Cotto in late rounds by beating him down and pressuring him.

                  I agree that it will very difficult to take out Cotto in the early rounds (but not impossible). Pacquiao is not a pressure fighter like Margarito, but if he lands solid shots on Cotto throughout the night I see him going down in the later rounds.
                  even if pac is landing quality shots, cotto has been taking shots from mosley, margo and clottey who are bigger punchers than pac.

                  cotto has gone 36 rounds w/ those guys.

                  pac can't hurt/buzz cotto, but he won't stop cotto.

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                    Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                    You mention margarito mosley and clottey. Those three fights I believe took a lot out of cotto. He was beat down by margarito, took some monster shots against mosley and nearly lost and same goes with clottey. The guy is beginning to wear down, where as pacquiao is fresh as can be. That's something to consider.

                    Also, it's unfair to ask how pacquiao would do against those three opponents because Cotto is closer in size to pacquiao than any of the other guys.
                    I finally see it, this post made me realize why people think Cotto is going on a downward spiral. Cotto's fights that you just mentioned were incredibly hard fighters/fights for anyone, Mayweather won't even fight 2/3 of them and Judah have Mayweather in trouble till the later half of the fight. Cotto isn't fading he's facing premium competition and he's in flat out brawls with these guys and for some reason people see this as him being bad. Didn't he win 2/3 of these brawls? And just like Paq is now, before the Margarito fight Cotto was being viewed as unstoppable until he faced a bigger man, in Margarito in which, tainted the fight was or not, he got beat and it showed there is a way to stop Cotto.

                    Manny is in that point of his career right now, the "Invincible" stage. His last three fights he looked extremely impressive I wont deny but all 3 were against names, but not elite fighters. Hatton is overrated he was a big man in a weak division and his last 3 fights prior to Paq you could see his terrible weight gain/loss in between fights caught up with him. Diaz... put Paq against Baby Bull Diaz and see if he looks half as good, that sums that up easily. As for De La Hoya he's never won a mega-fight. Mosley, he lost twice... Tito, he lost... Hopkins, he lost. Paq was put in against people who were perfect to show off his skills and that's exactly what he did. Cotto could have done the same, look what he did to Jennings and Gomez, you can make anyone look good.

                    People say that Paq is untouchable, why? Because of his last 3 fights, I said before I'll say it again you base a guy of his career not off of what he has done recently. He lost to Morales, draw with JMM in the first fight and barely won the second by a single point. You don't lose, draw and barely win by not being hit. So please, Paq is not untouchable his last three fights were there to show what Paq can do which is impressive, no doubt. But if a guy isn't in there with someone to be a threat to him you can't put much into that persons stock, look at what happened to Ortiz this passed weekend. I'm not saying that Paq only fights tomato cans, he's proved he doesn't but he hasn't fought anyone that is a threat to his style and that's all people see, which is...

                    Well Paq beat his last 3 guys easily, and Cotto didn't so Paq is obviously going to kick the **** out of him. That is the perfect definition of ignorance, talking about something yet not knowing a thing of what you speak of.

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                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      pac is at his best when attacking. but as he's gone up in weight, he has learned to set traps and counterpunch because attacking someone that outweighs you isn't the recipe for success.

                      cotto is gonna do exactly the same thing he always does. he is a robot.

                      that said, cotto is too strong and big for pac. even if pac thoroughly outboxes cotto, all cotto needs to do is land a few big shots and pac is toast.

                      cotto was landing bombs on margo. if he lands even a few bombs on pac, pac will get KOed.
                      Who has Cotto ever knocked out besides C-level opponents?

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