Teddy says Pernell is higher than Manny on the All Time list...

[dde91]

First Teddy Atlas is a straight up idiot!!!!!!!!

He was saying that Pacquaio wasnt great enough to be compare with the greates of all time wich is utterly bull****!!!!!!!!!!! He was talking about people in the 1900s and 1920s, that he didnt even saw fighting. And that youcant rank somebody higer than this guys, because they fought 100+ fights wich is ****** again. Different eras, different type and Quality of boxers, you ust can say that.. because I guarantee, that non of those guys, would of fought more than 50 or 60 fights in this era with out getting seriously hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, as of Pacquiao vs Pea, they are about even, but Pea edges Pacquiao by a bit, a Win at WW agains Cotto or Mosley, puts him ahead of pea and in the top 15 of AT.

Right now, for Me, I got Sweet Pea at #21 ATG and Pacquiao at #24.

And i dont care what haters says, pacquiao is definetly top 30!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Post!!!! I hate when Historians try to Claim these 1920's Boxers are Greater, when they didn't even see them. Everybody now is stronger, Quicker, Faster, and Boxing is more intelligent and complex then it was back then when everybody was blocking with there faces. i respect those guys, but historians overrate them.

[El Dominicano]

What do you all think?

Who's accomplishments are better and warrant a higher ranking on the ATG list?

Discuss.

Pernell Whitaker
JCC
JLR
Azumah Nelson
JCV
DLH (Prime)
Roger Mayweather
McGirt

Whitaker has the better resume

[dde91]

And just to put out there,

Teddy Atlas picked Hatton to beat Pacquiao because he said Hatton would be to big and strong for Pac Man.

Then when Pacquiao knocks him out, Teddy says Pac Man is a Great fighter but Hatton was made for Pacquiaos style. Teddy then says De La Hoya was made for Pacquiaos style. He is a ******.

B-hop needs to hurry and take his job over completely

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Good Post!!!! I hate when Historians try to Claim these 1920's Boxers are Greater, when they didn't even see them. Everybody now is stronger, Quicker, Faster, and Boxing is more intelligent and complex then it was back then when everybody was blocking with there faces. i respect those guys, but historians overrate them.

Co sign!!!!!!11

Could not say it better!!!!!!!!!!1

[dde91]

Pernell Whitaker
JCC
JLR
Azumah Nelson
JCV
DLH (Prime)
Roger Mayweather

Whitaker has the better resume

Manny Pacquiao

Morales X3
Barrera X2
Marquez X2
De La Hoya
Hatton
Ledwaba
Sasakul


looks like Pac Man takes it

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Pernell Whitaker
JCC
JLR
Azumah Nelson
JCV
DLH (Prime)
Roger Mayweather
McGirt

Whitaker has the better resume

negative!!!!!!!!!!!

Pacquiao have the better resume.

Sasakul
Ledwaba
Morales x2
JMM x1 and a draw
Barrera X2
DLH
Hatton
Larios
Solis

[Pullcounter]

Oh come on. People are really really getting out of hand.

How would Pac beat Pernell?

pac's not the same fighter he was at 130

[them_apples]

Chavez, Ramirez, De La Hoya, Trinidad, Nelson, McGirt, etc.

Umm...it is highly debatable.

yea but he got his ass kicked against Trinidad and he doesn't have the win against DLH.

Pacquiao avenged his one loss against Morales by KO 2 times. Getting knocked out when you are 16 shouldn't count. Even if it does though..

Barrera 2x
Morales 3x
Marquez 2x
DLH
Hatton
Ledwaba
Solis
Valesquez
Larios
Sasakul
Sanchez

the sad thing is I can even name more worthy oponents...even Diaz would normally show up on a fighter's resume, but Pacquiao has so many good names on his list that can take his place.

not to mentioned he's jumped how many weight classes? It isn't close at all, Pacquiao resume is much better than Pernels.

Who would win is a different story. Pernel doesn't fight like anyone Pacquiao has fought, and vice versa. If Pacquiao lbs on Mayweather or even knocked out Marquez, there is a good chance a fight at 140 would give him the nod. He's quicker then Pernel and hit's harder, throws more...

The reason I said Marquez is because he's a counter puncher. Pacquiao had trouble with him at 130, but he's looking a lot better and less 1 - dimensional these days.

BUT - based on resume's only, Pacquiao has the better resume.

considering he doesn't even have the W over 2 of those guys you listed, he doesn't come close to Pacquiao's.

[bishop2006]

Im one of Pernells biggest fans,but cumon man,Pac has a better resume

Morales,a ATG,got knocked out TWICE,not defeated on points,but KOd twice by Pac

Barrera,a ATG,got stopped badly and then lost widely again to Pac

Pac,who started as a flyweight,moved to Welterweight and brutaly beat down DLH,made him say no mas

And then went to Ricky Hattons kingdom,Hattons so called unbeatable weight class,where he had never lost,and knocked him spark out in 2

Morales x2
Barrera x2
Marquez win and draw
DLH KO
Hatton KTFO

Do i even need to say more? That right there is already a sick list,Pac has the better resume and will be remembered more then Sweat Pee for his style

And i dont think Teddy said Pernell is higher,he said u can compare Pac to the Whitakers,Pryors and Alexis Arguellos,but u cant compare him to the fighters in the 20's and 30's ( wot d ****? )

[!! Shawn]

yea but he got his ass kicked against Trinidad and he doesn't have the win against DLH.

Pacquiao avenged his one loss against Morales by KO 2 times. Getting knocked out when you are 16 shouldn't count. Even if it does though..

Barrera 2x
Morales 3x
Marquez 2x
DLH
Hatton
Ledwaba
Solis
Valesquez
Larios
Sasakul
Sanchez

the sad thing is I can even name more worthy oponents...even Diaz would normally show up on a fighter's resume, but Pacquiao has so many good names on his list that can take his place.

not to mentioned he's jumped how many weight classes? It isn't close at all, Pacquiao resume is much better than Pernels.

Who would win is a different story. Pernel doesn't fight like anyone Pacquiao has fought, and vice versa. If Pacquiao lbs on Mayweather or even knocked out Marquez, there is a good chance a fight at 140 would give him the nod. He's quicker then Pernel and hit's harder, throws more...

The reason I said Marquez is because he's a counter puncher. Pacquiao had trouble with him at 130, but he's looking a lot better and less 1 - dimensional these days.

BUT - based on resume's only, Pacquiao has the better resume.

considering he doesn't even have the W over 2 of those guys you listed, he doesn't come close to Pacquiao's.

Umm... you do realize Pernell was quite a weight jumper too.

135 -> 140 -> 147 -> 154 with legitimate titles in all.

The bottom line is that how many weight classes a fighter is able to jump has more to do with a fighters body type than their ability.

Pac was huge at the lower weights, Pernell was not.