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In what WeightClass & Percentage of PBF career will "YOU" judge FLOYD MAYWEATHER???

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    #61
    Originally posted by Horus View Post
    too me that is very subjective...but if floyd would have done it cool... but he didnt and too me it doesnt mean that much because who is cotto? at the end of the day..Cotoo is on the cusp of greatness...he is not great... but I will concede a win over cotto would have shut the critics up more..then not having the win over cotto...

    but to me Shane Mosely is the fighter who floyd should have fought IMO..but Mosely turn it down in his prime
    Yea, I'm not saying he NEEDED Cotto or anything. I think he could have used a win over a legit top Welterweight to go out on, and at the time, Cotto was recognized as the best. That's all I'm saying.

    He's still the ****in man, I just feel like he was young enough to bring some closure to that WW run of his.

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      #62
      so de la hoya is better than floyd because he has defeated seventeen world champions and has won ten world titles in six different weight classes

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        #63
        Originally posted by oc9979 View Post
        so de la hoya is better than floyd because he has defeated seventeen world champions and has won ten world titles in six different weight classes
        if you want to make that argument go ahead...lol
        Floyd did his undefeated while becoming Undisputed champion in 3 divisions and Fighter of the year a combined 10 times..With fighting for 11 years with being a Offical World Champion 10 of them...

        i got stats for pages...

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          #64
          like I said before


          Floyd is already Greatest of His Generation

          What is the point of fighting Non-Status Enhancing Fights, If they dont bring you A Lucrative Payday or If he cant become the greatest fighter ever fighting these guys...??


          He was already recognized as the P4P BEST since 2005
          He was already recognized as the undisputed Lineal Champion
          He was and still is already recognized around the world the best boxer alive.
          He was already accomplish what no other fighter in history has never done

          The only thing he has left to accomplish is to be call the The Greatest of All Time

          Some people Comments About him not fighting "true challengers" is completely ignorant.

          Kevin Idle said it best:

          1. Victories over 13 current, former or future world champions – Mayweather is frequently criticized for the level of his opposition, but he fought 13 men who were either champions at the time he fought them, were a world champion in the past or would go on to win a belt. And by saying world champion, I’m only referencing the IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO title belts. His victories were over, chronologically, Genaro Hernandez, Goyo Vargas, Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo (back-to-back), DeMarcus Corley, Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton.

          2.Total domination – In his last six fights, Mayweather was amazingly dominant. There were a combined 168 scored rounds in those bouts, of which Mayweather won 141, meaning he won 83.9 percent of the rounds against men who were current or former champions. If you add in for the three rounds scored by three judges in his three knockouts, that goes up to 84.7 percent.


          HE IS THE GREATEST FIGHTER OF HIS GENERATION. You can not accomplish more than that while reminding active.! Thats the point.

          No one fight can make him the greatest of all time
          No one fight can make he better than SRR,SRL,Hearns,Hagler,Ali, etc.
          No one fight can change history.!

          Fighters are Judge on their entire Career, and how they dominated the generation they fought in.

          Floyd dominated his generation.

          No matter how much you Mainstream Hardcore Fans like to think.
          Beating Miguel Cotto will not overnight change history.

          Miguel Cotto is not a great fighter...!
          He is on the cusp of greatness.., and that is a huge difference.

          Floyd has only one thing left to accomplish in his career that is not cemented already. and that is to be called "The greatest Fighter ever"

          He is already an All Time great
          He is already first ballot hall of famer
          He is already Greatest of his generation
          He is already the only person in history to Claim 5 weight divisions and capture 6 titles while staying undefeated.

          He has already left his mark on boxing..!

          The only thing left is to be called the greatest fighter ever...

          If he cant accomplish the status of Greatest Fighter Ever Fighting Guys Like Margarito at this point of his career, or Make 20-30 million like he did against Hatton.. Why fight these guys, if they dont Enhance his legacy past what it already is...

          It is obvious people will never give him that status so why continue fighting for something he already has... And that is the recognition as the best boxer alive and P4P best....



          Oscar Fought Floyd to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
          SRL fought Hagler to Enhance his legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
          Ricky Hatton fought to Floyd to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
          Oscar fought Tito to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
          SRL fought Hearns to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday

          So if Floyd fought Cotto, It would Enhance His legecy to what...?

          "Greatest of His Generation"....?
          -Guess What?

          He already is


          So why should Floyd listen to guys like Margarito,Williams,Cotto calling him out, if they dont Enhance his Legacy And Get him Lucrative Payday ..?

          Like Floyd did for Oscar

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            #65
            Originally posted by Horus View Post
            So why should Floyd listen to guys like Margarito,Williams,Cotto calling him out, if they dont Enhance his Legacy And Get him Lucrative Payday ..?

            Like Floyd did for Oscar
            So now Floyd, was tthe one who brought the Money. hahahahaah! GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              #66
              Originally posted by Horus View Post
              why is it dumb?
              because you know the answer... you are just waiting for some people to start saying he would be judged in his career at 147 and up so you can throw obvious facts at them

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                #67
                I always agree floyd is a great fighter but why I hate him is because he and some of his fans claim he is one of the greatest of all time.. his resume is good but far from greatest of all time

                And then people say but his defense was the best evverrr... oh thats great but earnie shavers power was the best evvverrr but does that make him the best??

                Floyd is a great fighter for his generation but nothing more than that

                Originally Posted by Horus View Post
                So why should Floyd listen to guys like Margarito,Williams,Cotto calling him out, if they dont Enhance his Legacy And Get him Lucrative Payday ..?
                And can you honestly say if mayweather fought and beat cotto, williams, or marg or shane it wouldnt enhance his legacy just cause it would be above where he fought the majority of his career.
                Last edited by Danny Gunz; 03-03-2009, 12:23 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Horus View Post
                  we are talking about fights a fighter had....
                  and leonard had 40 fights and a great career no doubt 1 of the greatest...

                  but Floyd had a great Career too...
                  In 39 fights Floyd has done what hardly anybody has ever done...

                  Floyd Mayweather:
                  Career Span ( 11 Years: In which 10 Years He was a champion)
                  • Undisputed Champion in 3 Divisions (The Ring Belt)
                  • 5 Division Champion
                  • Superfeather weight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)
                  • Lightweight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)
                  • Welterweight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)
                  • Fighter of the year a combined 10 times

                  1. Professional: 39 fights; 39+ (25 KO)
                  2. 31 Fights at 140 and under
                  3. 8 fights at 154 and under
                  4. Champion for 10 years
                  5. Champions Fought:13
                  6. Champions Fought in their prime:8
                  7. 1998-2002: W.B.C. Juniorlightweight (8 title defenses)
                  8. 2002-2003: W.B.C. Lightweight ( 3 title defense)
                  9. 2005: W.B.C. Juniorwelterweight
                  10. 2006: I.B.F. Welterweight
                  11. 2006-2008: W.B.C. Welterweight
                  12. 2007: W.B.C. Juniormiddleweights
                  13. Ring Fighter of the Year: 2 times 1998 and 2007
                  14. WBC Fighter of the year 3 times : 1998,2001,2007
                  15. World Boxing Hall of Fame’s Fighter of the Year: 2002
                  16. USA Today Fighter of the Year: 2007
                  17. Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year:2007
                  18. ESPN fighter of the year:2007
                  19. ******* Fighter Of The Year: 2007
                  20. Undefeated


                  People Say All Mayweather has Never been in any Wars with a Prime P4P Opponent:

                  But I Guess that they never seen him fight Jesus Chavez 35-1.in 2001.

                  People Say Mayweather has never fought Somebody who would have to make him fight
                  But I Guess that they never seen him fight Jose Luis Castillo 2002.

                  Jesus Chavez 35-1 (TOP 5 in the division)
                  Carlos Hernandez 33-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
                  Justin Juuko 33-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
                  Angel Manfredy 25-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
                  Carlos Gerena 34-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
                  Diego Corrales 33-0 (CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION) Top 5 p4p
                  Genaro Hernandez 38-1(CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION)
                  Jose Luis Castillo (CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION)



                  I have one question?
                  Since 2006 to the Present
                  Who is the RING ****zine Ring Champion of the
                  Welter Weight Division?

                  Meaning Who id The current or last undisputed King of the WelterWeight Division?

                  The answer is..................(DRUMROLL)

                  Vacant.!!


                  There is no recognize champion at the Welterweight division.
                  The Last Universally Recognize champion with the RING BELT.

                  Floyd Mayweather...

                  The Ring's titles are all you need to pay attention to. I'm a firm believer that their champions are the only true champions
                  Dumbest post of the day. Are you telling us that Floyd was the true champion and thus because he retired and Margarito, mosley and Cotto never got to fight him, they can't ever be true champions.


                  What a mouth-breather. And this is a Floyd fan talking.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Horus View Post
                    Whats up welter??

                    Ok in 2006 and 2007 which welter was better than Floyd?

                    I have one more question?
                    Since 2006 to the Present
                    Who is the RING ****zine Ring Champion of the
                    Welter Weight Division?

                    Meaning Who is The current or last undisputed King of the WelterWeight Division?

                    The answer is..................(DRUMROLL)

                    Vacant.!!


                    There is no recognize champion at the Welterweight division.
                    The Last Universally Recognize champion with the RING BELT.

                    Floyd Mayweather...




                    The Ring's titles are all you need to pay attention to. I'm a firm believer that their champions are the only true champions
                    What a dip****, keeps reposting the same thing over again.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Horus View Post
                      like I said before


                      Floyd is already Greatest of His Generation

                      ??

                      You don't even know what that means. He became a champion in 1998 and retired at the end of 2007. That's a period of 9 years of his so called generation. If he is the best fighter all-around of those 9 years then that's because Roy Jones was on his way out after dominating the 90's with middleweight, supper-middle and undisputed light-heavyweight title reigns. And still managing to win a WBC heavyweight title and regain his Undisputed Light-heavy title one more time in 2002 before falling off. It's because guys like Trinidad and Delahoya were on their way out after great years in the 90's. These guys are not part of Floyd's generation.

                      Who is there to compete with Floyd in the 1998-2007 era??? One guy now.....his name is MannY Pacquiao who also won his first WBC world title in 1998 at Flyweight and might become a Lineal Jr.welterweight champ in 2 months.

                      Right now, fair and balanced and me taking my Floyd nuthuggery out the equation.......Manny Pacquaio is about to take Floyd spot as the greatest fighter of this generation. Better pray that Hatton beats him groupie.
                      Last edited by Vladimir303; 03-03-2009, 12:39 AM.

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