Originally posted by Ivich
View Post
-
What is banned to you? -
Some one who habitually gets thrown off the forum for mouthing the same crap ad nauseum,then takes his acutely boring garbage to You Tube boxing sites in an attempt to begin all over again like Ground Hog Day.Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
I stopped responding to your trolling self some time ago,you're just an attention craver with nothing to offer any forum but the same empty platitudes.I seriously doubt you even watch boxing.
I was just idly speculating how long us, "crazy blind idiots," will have to put up with you this time?
It's of no relevance ,or importance, similar to you really.Last edited by Ivich; 11-13-2022, 12:52 PM.
billeau2
likes this.
Comment
-
Telling the truth is trolling I'll keep doing it like I always have to crazy idiots like you and banned to me is deleting my comments idiotOriginally posted by Ivich View Post
Your happy to be crazy blind idiots i won't give up ill always try to help you people
Cause flick said the same thing I said like others but they say my truth in a nice way your not as hurt by it
cause I call you people what you are crazy blind idiots im the troll and It doesn't matter that you dont like it you need to take it to get in your crazy heads
It should be obvious why im doing what I do to people cause its not attention wanting
You doubt I watch boxing even though I say the truth on video in detail you have gotten even more crazyLast edited by Ascended; 11-13-2022, 01:06 PM.Comment
-
To recollect every time you have been asked for an analysis of what modern fighters do that older fighters could not do would take several pages.Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
Neither on Classic ,the various You Tube Forums ,or here have you ever once offered a detailed break down of why today's fighters are superior to the ,say 50's.
Though you have many many times been asked to do so.
My own belief is that you dont know a left jab from a right uppercut,a right cross from a left hook.
You are just a pathetic, attention seeking troll.
Well now I've humoured you,and you have had the spotlight on you for a few fleeting seconds.
Be satisfied and eternally grateful for that ,and just jog on. You Terminal Bore.Comment
-
morrison vs louisOriginally posted by Ivich View Post
I see walking in smoothly guard up throwing punches
walking in throwing shots ducking throwing combos smoothly
I see walking in throwing shots from angles while moving back to avoid
upperbody movement and foot work is good and other advances in movement
walking in throwing but not as smoothly from joes vid
missing the other things I said compared to tom the man who fought like mike but not as quick or used those fancy switches into another angle
louis counters but it's mostly from a forward position not from mutiples like tom could do
joes footwork is real slow stiff like tiptoeing looks to be almost the same as any opponent except a few
head movement is not there
cunnningham compared to louis
he came in and out
steve could pick shots counter with a couple shots or mutiple combos from a missed shot while moving back
look how he can move then quick switch to another angle and throw another punch
can throw jabs quick from distance switch to another stance and throw combos and people act like joe could do better then this never have he seen this type of advanced movement
brigs vs lenno
brigs could punch in quick and out thats using a angle
Briggs could duck while punching then duck and punch
and then you see how in Louis era they didnt do that as smoothly or not at all
lennox punches while moving forward smoothly or punching while keeping the guard up moving back or circling around
This is all from esb last year and from video
This is from earlier this year on this site
Bill he moves good he punches while moving forward his tech is good but this isn't sloopy or is his tech bad cause im talking looking back at his era only
he was fast and good with combos from angles
at times when he wanted to be patient he could be and counter good
Jersey the best mover of the whole era flashy could pick you apart from range
great head movement
Was able to confuse his victims cause of the flashy head movement
great counter puncher when he wanted to show off combined with his combos with speed
klit doesn't move flashy like jers moves real slow compared to both but has a big reach
isn't as active as those 2 seems like that would be a flaw yea that can be seen as that but looking at it this way made him more dangerous
His low activeness allowed him to read good
he was a picker i would compare his patience that of a young Ali but even more patient cause wlad was slower he needed to be more patient cause his speed was slow but great aiming which is hard to be at that type of speed
often at times waited for his person to punch then intercepted their punches
able to keep a person at range with his hard jabs
defense agian not as active as jers and bill on the move but kept 1 arm up while punching with the other smoothly
both jers and still being active more then wlad their punch tech still wasnt as smooth and both most the time were more wild compared
So no your a liar your what I call you always and others every detail is exactly as I seen it on video with no bias at all I compared exactly what's on video and as I explained its mutiple angles and movements along with lack of smoothness in movements they didnt have in Joe's time or the time before his and most didnt have those same advanced angles even in 70s
So your the one who doesn't watch matches I watch every detail I have no reason to just call Joe's era or the time before his was trash if I seen It was as advanced as fighters I described in detail I would say it
I watched every video side by side on my laptop and broke down every detail as i told you i have no reason to lie or just to put down a certain era for no reason i have no reason to
I'm here to tell the truth and that's what i do the joe era looks horrible compared to every fighter i named
It's the same as I compare 40s to 20s the 40s do stuff they didn't do in 20s and are smoother
Last edited by Ascended; 11-13-2022, 04:09 PM.Comment
-
He scowers the archives looking for absurd threads that support his supposition that today's boxing dates back only to the mid 1980's and he revives them. Willful ignorance works directly against the accumulation of further knowledge. Anything prior the the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand and we can discuss as best practice shifts in acclimation to compressed fight schedules, scheduled durations and ever larger gloves; but anything after that; no forward development of boxing science technique, conditioning that provides actual results, increased global talent pool or better fighters. Nothing but steady decreases in global testosterone. Look how quickly MMA developed towards a stable state as a reference tool. This is not a difficult concept. Lol.Originally posted by Ivich View Post
Comment
-
Extraordinary theories require extraordinary proof.Originally posted by moneytheman View Post
1. Take a calculation about how many people saw Ray Robinson, film of Ray Robinson, imitated Ray Robinson (Including Leonard) and found his ability in a class by itself.
2. It has been established that Ray Robinson could at various times box, punch, defend, counterpunch, power punch, fight inside, jab, throw all other punches, on an expert level.
3. It has been established Ray Robinson had the physical raw gifts of a fighter like Jones, or Ali...
And then someone just happens to one day notice that in fact: Robinson loops his shots, is off balanced, fights like an amateur. Despite the fact that during stretches, Robinson went undefeated for a 100 bouts, against ATG level competition... consistently. people that saw him say he was even better as a light weight/Welter.
Now... does it make sense to you... given this objective description... that someone could be correct in their assesment? Or would you expect them to have to explain the other apparent correlations that show Robinson was a phenom?
Grow up and use your brain, its that thing that sits on top of that cheeky thing you deficate and speak out of.Last edited by billeau2; 11-14-2022, 12:18 AM.Comment
-
LaMotta - Hey, Ray, I never went down, man! You never got me down, Ray!
JAB5239
likes this.
Comment
-
Wasn't Ray best man in one of Lamotta's weddings, or am I mistaken?Originally posted by billeau2 View PostComment
Comment