Are we all deluded about Sugar Ray Robinson?

[StarshipTrooper]

Who doesn't love to ****? It takes an especially disciplined fighter not to.

My question is why is ****ing given a bad name? Depending on the circumstances it can be a more efficient avenue to victory than "boxing".

Poet

[Barn]

I agree. Although it is a lot more fun than fighting a disciplined fight. Can take less energy out of you as well sometimes.

Even Sweet Pea loved a good scrap!

[joseph5620]

lol. simple enough for me? really? let me explain it to you. this is about RAY LEONARD VS RAY ROBINSON. NOT RAY VS TOMMY. THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

i brought it up because the comparison works. SRR was bigger SRL, and SRR had similar attributes to Hearns.

was that simple enough for you?








that is not remotely the same thing. it is laughable that you'd actually make that assumption.




no. it doesn't. please explain to me how you can gauge what you're basing your opinion on based on what is most likely later fight film of SRR.










this is irelevant. so lets get **** **** out the way.



bull****. at welterweight hearns was listed at 6'1 and there's always been dispute about whether or not ray was 5-11 or 6'0. so right off the bat your math is wrong.






true.
yeah.

the fact that he might be slightly better then SRR at this doesn't not lend any credence to what you're arguing. its almost as if you're arguing that hearns boxing talent was SO much better then Ray's that arguing that SRR would have had similar success vs Leonard is laughable.



i honestly don't know how you can possibly now that. at this point I'm not even gonna try and finish this discussion with this bull**** artist.



the bottom line is THIS IS NOT ABOUT ROBINSON VS HEARNS.

THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY.

Hearns was listed at 6-1 because he had trouble getting fights at 147 due to his height. He was actually 6-3 or close to it. Emanuelle Steward confirmed this and you can see for yourself when stood face to face with James Shuler(6-1) Virgil Hill (6-0 and a half) and even Muhammad Ali (6-3).

[Barn]

Hearns was listed at 6-1 because he had trouble getting fights at 147 due to his height. He was actually 6-3 or close to it. Emanuelle Steward confirmed this and you can see for yourself when stood face to face with James Shuler(6-1) Virgil Hill (6-0 and a half) and even Muhammad Ali (6-3).

[IronDanHamza]

Who doesn't love to ****? It takes an especially disciplined fighter not to.

I don't know, Willie Pastrano? Joshua Clottey? I don't know.

But that wasn't even what I was saying, anyway.

Ray Leonard enjoyed going toe to toe with guys. He enjoyed standing his ground and throwing 6,7,8 punches at a time.

From my experience on this website I imagine around 85+% of people are unaware of this.

[AntonTheMeh]

Hearns was listed at 6-1 because he had trouble getting fights at 147 due to his height. He was actually 6-3 or close to it. Emanuelle Steward confirmed this and you can see for yourself when stood face to face with James Shuler(6-1) Virgil Hill (6-0 and a half) and even Muhammad Ali (6-3).

same was said about SRR. i do think hearns might have grown some (not much) as he went up in weight to be honest. maybe it just looked that way cause he was so slight at ww. although, in that video barn burner posted he doesn't look as tall as ali.

[Barn]

I don't know, Willie Pastrano? Joshua Clottey? I don't know.

But that wasn't even what I was saying, anyway.

Ray Leonard enjoyed going toe to toe with guys. He enjoyed standing his ground and throwing 6,7,8 punches at a time.

From my experience on this website I imagine around 85+% of people are unaware of this.

no-one can tek his poonches.

I think instead of pointing people to the Duran fight, it would be better to point them to the Benitez fight. Leonard was damn awesome there using his usual style and clearly bested an in prime ATG.

I'm not sure what everyone else thinks Leonard's best fight is. Benitez is the best performance he has had IMO.

[Barn]

same was said about SRR. i do think hearns might have grown some (not much) as he went up in weight to be honest. maybe it just looked that way cause he was so slight at ww. although, in that video barn burner posted he doesn't look as tall as ali.

Pause at 0:22, they are by no means far off.

[IronDanHamza]

no-one can tek his poonches.

I think instead of pointing people to the Duran fight, it would be better to point them to the Benitez fight. Leonard was damn awesome there using his usual style and clearly bested an in prime ATG.

I'm not sure what everyone else thinks Leonard's best fight is. Benitez is the best performance he has had IMO.

Possibly.

It's a very underrated fight between two prime ATG's.

[AntonTheMeh]

Pause at 0:22, they are by no means far off.

6'1 isn't far off from 6'3 but it aint 6-3.