Manny Pacqiuao a Top 25 all time great??

[JAB5239]

with all due respect you have not answered my question. regardless of how this sport has evolved and moved on over the last 100yrs or so, what Pacquiao has achieved is the equivalent of Jimmy Wilde moving through the weights in 1914 beating such fighters as Abe Atell, Johnny Kilbane, Packey McFarland, Battling Nelson & Sam Langford. with Harry Greb (F.Mayweather) then refusing to accept the challenge from Wilde. you just cannot comprehend Jimmy Wilde being able to achieve such an incredible feat yet that is what Manny Pacquiao has achieved and more.

Wow. I mean........wow! You just compared some of the greatest fighters in history to Sasakul, Ledwaba, Diaz, Hatton, Cotto and Margarito?

[mickey malone]

Pacquiao's a match for anyone in history throughout the lower weight divisions and i believe if he stays in the game until he's 35, will achieve at least a top 25 ranking. He's pretty much knocking on that door right now.

[Barn]

If he retired tomrrow I would have him at around 40.

If he beats Floyd About 35.

[Spartacus Sully]

with all due respect you have not answered my question. regardless of how this sport has evolved and moved on over the last 100yrs or so, what Pacquiao has achieved is the equivalent of Jimmy Wilde moving through the weights in 1914 beating such fighters as Abe Atell, Johnny Kilbane, Packey McFarland, Battling Nelson & Sam Langford. with Harry Greb (F.Mayweather) then refusing to accept the challenge from Wilde. you just cannot comprehend Jimmy Wilde being able to achieve such an incredible feat yet that is what Manny Pacquiao has achieved and more.

Manny pacquiao 52(38 ko)-3-2

jimmy wilde 134(100 ko)-4-2

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[Quarry]

Meh....Pac is my favorite active fighter. But, like Black Irish said Duran did almost the same thing started at bantamweight ended at SMW. In the span of 3 decades and had better wins than Pac.

Jimmy McClarnin started near the flyweight limit went up all the way to WW. Dominated and KO'd better fighters than what Pac has faced.

To say that Pac accomplished more than those 2 and then include Greb and Langford 2 guys who have a case just as good as SRR to being considered the GOAT of all time is quite laughable.

i think it is you who the laugh is on. Duran was not a world champion at bantamweight etc. same goes for McLarnin and their dominance was no greater if any than what Pacquiao's is today with Manny being the premium No1 boxer in the sport which Duran & McLarnin was not at any time during their career's.

[Spartacus Sully]

i think it is you who the laugh is on. Duran was not a world champion at bantamweight etc. same goes for McLarnin and their dominance was no greater if any than what Pacquiao's is today with Manny being the premium No1 boxer in the sport which Duran & McLarnin was not at any time during their career's.

manny went from 106- 145 ish = 39 lbs

duran went from 119 - 165 ish = 46 lbs

[Quarry]

Wow. I mean........wow! You just compared some of the greatest fighters in history to Sasakul, Ledwaba, Diaz, Hatton, Cotto and Margarito?

This post show's your ignorance of this sport as well as your lack of knowledge, i have in no way compared some of the greatest fighters in history to the fighters who you have chosen, what i am saying is Manny Pacquiao is comparable if not better than those fighters you claim to be the best in history. Pacquiao has beaten the very best fighters in the weight divisions he has become champion, Sasakul 33-1, Ledwaba 33-1, Barrera 57-3, J.M.Marquez 42-2, Morales 47-2, Diaz 34-1, De La Hoya 39-5, Hatton 45-1, Cotto 34-1, Margarito 38-6 who weighed 172lbs on fight night which is an amazing 65lb heavier than what Pacquiao weighed when winning his first world title and is an achievement none of those greatest fighters in history which you listed achieved. At least seven of the men Pacquiao beat for world titles are destined for the HOF in the next 20yrs which shows just how incredible his boxing achievements have been compared to every other fighter in history, This Topic should not be asking if Manny Pacquiao is an ATG Top 25 fighter it should be is he a Top 5 fighter.

[Quarry]

manny went from 106- 145 ish = 39 lbs

duran went from 119 - 165 ish = 46 lbs

Pacquiao world champion 112-154 =42lbs

Duran world champion 135-165 = 30lbs

Let's get the facts correct here.

[Spartacus Sully]

Pacquiao world champion 112-154 =42lbs

Duran world champion 135-165 = 30lbs

Let's get the facts correct here.

no, i was pointing out the weight they started and the weight of their last bout.

the point is to show the range of weights they fought at i dont really care what titles they won and at what weights as the opposition they fought to get the titles is much more important.

i mean duran fought ken buchannan or something 43-1-0 for his first title while paciano fought saschkul or something at 33-1-0 for his first title

[Tamis!]

I wouldn't ever be in a position to rank anyone in the ATGs, since I didn't cover boxing since time immemorial.

To the peeps who has their own ATG list, did you just rely on your stash of videos from the 1900's and go by it? Or you really old enough like zombie Bert Sugar to see it all unfold?

Coz my boy, Pancho Villa, for me is the greatest Flyweight of all time (sorry Jimmy Wilde and Finito Lopez fans), and to me Pac doesn't hold a candle to him, and Pancho's not even in the top 50 ATG.

It'll always be subjective.