So you think Ali was more scared, of being a desk jockey, being treated like a king, and doing soft exhibition matches to entertain troops? then the huge public outcry of him refusing, having his title stripped, possibly going to jail for 5 years, loosing his financial status during this time.. a man that comes out with something like 'No vietcong ever called me ******' a man of status, in the sixties, in America.. a country still largely guilty of discrimination... is obviously not afraid of much. Ali not going to Vietnam was a sign of a brave man, not a coward.
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Originally posted by Dirt E GomezHah, Ali "exposed" him? This is laughable. It's good to see people learned from Ali's tactic and made it so Foreman could never get back on his feet again... oh wait... after his loss to Ali he went on to go 36-4 in all of his fights until his retirement. Man, they sure used Ali's "example" of how to beat Foreman.
Ali did nothing but stand in the ring and allow Foreman to beat himself, nothing more. It is a huge win, regardless of circumstances... but it still is a very overrated win in my eyes.
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Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan001)Rocky Marciano
2)george Foreman (70's)
3)Joe Louis
4)Jack Dempsey
5)Mike Tyson
6)Joe Frazier
7)Archie Moore (even though LHW)
8)George Foreman (90's)
9)Gene tunney
10)Larry Holmes
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It's nice he has brother George in his list twice. I have him in just the once!
I think thats the only Top 10 Greatest heavy list that hasn't got Ali on it! For shame.
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Originally posted by Southpaw StingerIt's nice he has brother George in his list twice. I have him in just the once!
I think thats the only Top 10 Greatest heavy list that hasn't got Ali on it! For shame.
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Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00ahhhh i said that it was my top 10 favorite heavyweights and i also said that ali's on and off it
you want me to post the top 10 heavyweights in my opinion?
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Originally posted by Southpaw StingerTake a guess at who he'll have at number 1... lol
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Top 10 Heavyweights in my opinion---not my favorites
Joe Louis- how can you not admire his boxing skill, power and mind
Muhammad Ali- i don't want to rank him above louis because louis is great but Ali's gotta be up here somewhere, his footwork handspeed helped him in the beginning of his career and his handspeed power and mind helped later, durable fighter
George Foreman- Great fighter, arguabley stronger then Marciano, big, tough, intimidating,Only once KO'd and by the man above him, not only did he have a great career in the 70's but when he made his comeback he had lost power and gained a great mind which gave him a very successful comeback
Joe Frazier- Quick, defensive, strong brawler, great fighter, he beat ali in there second rematch, great fighter overall, I think he's like if you put Rocky Marciano and Mike Tyson (even though he came later) together you get Joe Frazier, Only reason i rank him above Marciano is because Frazier is like a Marciano upgrade so he's up here
Rocky Marciano-The Brockton Blockbuster, at least the Second strongest figther ever, arguably as strong as foreman, he had great power in both hands and proabably could have fought in fights that went on to 25th rounds, Heart NEARLY unmatched,Stamina you couldn't get around,Power that would hurt you to no end, and his key Relentlessness it doesn't matter if he can win a fight or not because he won't let you, his work ethic was great, his training scedelue was outstanding,only reason i rank him at 5 instead of three is because most of the fighters above him have all fought each other beside Joe Louis, and that kinda put them into place but Marciano he was to old to face clay, and he beat Joe Louis, although still dangerous not in his prime so i feel that even though he is one of the greatest fighters i'll put him at five i may put him at 3 next time depends on where i stand at the time,49-0-0 speaks for itself though,undeafeated and still stands today, 88% KO Rate.
Mike Tyson-in my opinion one of the Greatest fighters ever, or at least had the potential to be, if Cus hadn't died, or tyson had somebody like Cus instead of Don King Tyson would have surpassed all fighters, His strength and speed dead on, you may not agree with me but look at what he did in the 80's, that was before his prime,had he reached his prime with Cus D'mato there's no way anybody would stop him, especially Buster Douglas, I mean in the 80's when someone asked him why he runs at 4am he said because no on else does but in the 90's it was more like "I'll **** you till you love bi*ch" so i mean you can see how he's different. "I'm the best ever,i'm the most ruthless,most brutal, most vicious there's ever been, Lennox is a conquerer,no i'm alexander he's no alexander. I'm the best ever there's never been anyone like me, I'm sonny liston i'm jack dempsey, there's no one like me, there's no one can match me, my style is impetitious, my defense is impregnable and i'm just fericious, i want your heart i'm gunna eat his children"
Jack Dempsey-the manassa mauler *spelling*
Dempsey was a great fighter from the 20's with his strength and speed alone i was impressed, he'd hit guys and break teeth and bone and anything else, he's a feared champion the only man i believe that really always had the upper hand on him was Gene Tunney.
Gene Tunney- a military boxer if i'm not mistaken tunney was strong and always able to beat Dempsey, in there three fights i believe dempsey only won one round, the round with the "Long Count". if it had been started earlier yes Dempsy likely would have won, but when tunney got up, tunney won
Larry Holmes-alittle low on the chart i suppose considering he did have a 48-0 record but he was a good fighter, had one of the best Jabs, style like ali's he just didn't have the brain ali did, he may have even beat tyson had he been able to dance more, but he overall was a good fighter so he does deserve some recognition.
Ezzard Charles- a fighter from the 50's and very formadible, great fighter in general i mean he had the HW belt for awhile and gave Jersey Joe a run for his money, so he was a very good fighter in the 50's and i think deserves to be up here
there ya go
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Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 06:37 AM.
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