My Top Ten Greatest Heavyweight Champs Of All Time!

[Heckler]

well technically if you think about it, Tyson was in prison where he had to make sure he didn't get into any fights with ppl or he'd definitly get in more trouble, and you know ppl were looking for fights with him, also he probably couldn't train as adequatly, Ali technically could have kept training and even probably gone to a gym and sparred i mean you don't need a license to do that but whatever

Ali at that point was busy dealing with personal issues such as trying to make some money and dealing with legal matters. Training was the least of his worries.

[Heckler]

Tyson's style was different than Frazier's. I've said this a million times, I guess I'll say it more. It wasn't Frazier's bob and weave that troubled Ali, it was his relentless agression and attack. Tyson didn't come straight at people like Frazier did. And even if the bob and weave troubled Ali, he did put Joe in the hospital for a few months. If Ali did that damage to Tyson, Tyson wouldn't have the heart to finish the fight. Have you seen how bad Ali batters Joe in the 9th round of FOTC? It's surprising Joe came out after that round (yet it's surprising Ali came out from the 11th round).

So no, it doesn't come close. Once Tyson realized that Ali wasn't terrified of him, and started to trade blows with Tyson, Tyson would crumble. And anyway, Ali would have ****ed with Tyson's head before the fight, so Tyson wouldn't be able to think straight anyway.

Exactly, you watch tysons earlier fighters. He was actually more of a mid-range fighter, unlike Frazier who loved getting on the inside. He would burst in from midrange and it was quite clear by sticking and moving and then throwing counter-punches, it was a right that Tyson was open to, a cross.. Ali's bread and butter punch. Im definate Ali would confuse him, frustrate him, and essentially decimate him... so is Kevin Rooney. Buster Douglas: Tyson would of had trouble with Buster any time in his career. It was the style and tactics that frustrated him, stick and move, and counter-punch. Tyson was exposed, no exscuses, no bull****. Would Tyson win n 85'? without a doubt, but he'd still really struggle against him... against Ali he wouldn't stand a chance.

[butterfly1964]

i'll change some of that again!

1) Muhammad Ali
2) Sonny Liston
3) Larry Holmes
4) George Foreman
5) Joe Frazier
6) Mike Tyson
7) Joe Louis
8) Jack Johnson
9) Evander Holyfield
10) Lennox Lewis

yes, i'm changing it again! I hope this makes some of you happy!

1) Muhammad Ali
2) Sonny Liston
3) George Foreman
4) Joe Frazier
5) Larry Holmes
6) Mike Tyson
7) Joe Louis
8) Jack Johnson
9) Evander Holyfield
10) Lennox Lewis

i might change it again in the future when i study it more in depth and make a more educated decision.

[Oasis_Lad]

1 muhammad ali
2 joe louis
3 george foreman
4 joe frazier
5 rocky marciano
6 sonny liston
7 larry holmes
8 gene tunney
9 evander holyfield
10 floyd patterson

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Just out of interest are those your top 10 favourite heavyweights, or who you think are the best. Im not mad either, everyones entitled to their opinions... but out of sheer curiosity... why isn't Ali in your top 10. A) you dont like him (which shouldn't matter) or B) you haven't read, watched, talked, listened enough?

eh Ali is on and off my top 10 i don't hate him but he's varies for me cause some things about him i like somethings i dont' like so its on and off, i'd probably have more respect for him had he fought in the war, i mean not fought in the literal sense but actually gone because they tend to give stars (in nam anyhow) easy desk jobs, so i mean he would probably hadn't of had to fight----but w.e

also its my top 10 not thee top 10
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[Heckler]

eh Ali is on and off my top 10 i don't hate him but he's varies for me cause some things about him i like somethings i dont' like so its on and off, i'd probably have more respect for him had he fought in the war, i mean not fought in the literal sense but actually gone because they tend to give stars (in nam anyhow) easy desk jobs, so i mean he would probably hadn't of had to fight----but w.e

also its my top 10 not thee top 10

Yeah but most people would judge 'my top 10' on ability. Could i ask, why would Ali earn your respect by going to a pointless, unjust completely politically motivated a war? That achieved nothing but a huge loss of civillian life? Like he said 'no vietcong ever called me ******' Why would he fight for a country that didn't give him equality?. Think about these things before you come to the conclusion he was just another draft dodger. He had more to loose by not going to Vietnam, and i personally respect him alot for doing what he did.

[Heckler]

The you know, GREATEST in the title of this thread also implies something about actual BOXING ABILITY

[Dirt E Gomez]

Ali would always beat Foreman, especially in his prime. Every fighter is bad against a certain style... Foreman was bad against fighters with handspeed, ability to absorb punishment, and who can fight on the backfoot... eg. Ali, Holmes. Like Ali Foreman wasn't invincible, and Ali exposed him and people have to learn to accept it.

Hah, Ali "exposed" him? This is laughable. It's good to see people learned from Ali's tactic and made it so Foreman could never get back on his feet again... oh wait... after his loss to Ali he went on to go 36-4 in all of his fights until his retirement. Man, they sure used Ali's "example" of how to beat Foreman.

Ali did nothing but stand in the ring and allow Foreman to beat himself, nothing more. It is a huge win, regardless of circumstances... but it still is a very overrated win in my eyes.

[Pugnacious_Z]

Heckler, all of the reasons you made about Ali not going to war are justifiable, but to be honest i think he was just scared to go like any1 wud be.

[Oasis_Lad]

Heckler, all of the reasons you made about Ali not going to war are justifiable, but to be honest i think he was just scared to go like any1 wud be.

he was'nt scared he just was'nt americas lapdog
and was'nt going to kill innocent people just coz he was told to